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Is this Discrimination?
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I am going to give them until tomorrow, if nothing then a going to write.....do you think directly to the home or straight to HR or both?
I would wait for Daisy's advice on this but they may well be leaving themselves open to a discrimination claim. Do you have legal cover as part of your house insurance?0 -
Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »Walk away?
I'd only consider this job if I had no other to go to. Are you giving up a good job for this? It isn't going to end well.
The job I would be giving up is one I have been in for quite a few years, not a particularly good job...as in ..not that well paid...and hours are inconsistent etc.,
I am beginning to think the same way too :mad:0 -
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I would wait for Daisy's advice on this but they may well be leaving themselves open to a discrimination claim. Do you have legal cover as part of your house insurance?
Right now they are wide open to a discrimination claim. I have a disability myself, and I can tell you right now that there is no way that I would work for an organisation that gave me the runaround like this. And I would be starting to put evidence together in case I decided to make a discrimination claim against the company.
OP, if you are now reconsidering whether you still want the job, I suggest that you sit on your hands and do nothing for a couple of weeks. Why? Because the longer this goes on, the more rope you are giving them to hang themselves with.
In the meantime, please make a careful note of all telephone conversations that you have had with the home and HR, with dates and names if you still remember. And don't make any more phone calls - everything from here on should be in writing.
And just a reminder - in the first two years, the manager can dismiss you for any reason or no reason at all. Okay, not for a discriminatory reason - but if she wants to get rid of you, she'll watch you like a hawk, and pull you up on every little criticism she can find, until she has enough to evidence to dismiss you. If she is savvy, it will be much more difficult to show discrimination at that point.I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.0 -
zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »Right now they are wide open to a discrimination claim. I have a disability myself, and I can tell you right now that there is no way that I would work for an organisation that gave me the runaround like this. And I would be starting to put evidence together in case I decided to make a discrimination claim against the company.
OP, if you are now reconsidering whether you still want the job, I suggest that you sit on your hands and do nothing for a couple of weeks. Why? Because the longer this goes on, the more rope you are giving them to hang themselves with.
In the meantime, please make a careful note of all telephone conversations that you have had with the home and HR, with dates and names if you still remember. And don't make any more phone calls - everything from here on should be in writing.
And just a reminder - in the first two years, the manager can dismiss you for any reason or no reason at all. Okay, not for a discriminatory reason - but if she wants to get rid of you, she'll watch you like a hawk, and pull you up on every little criticism she can find, until she has enough to evidence to dismiss you. If she is savvy, it will be much more difficult to show discrimination at that point.
Well I was thinking of not contacting them at all now and waiting to see how long it takes them to contact me!!
Do you think I should write to the home Manager and/or HR at this moment, or wait?
I'm feeling very disappointed at the moment, it has taken me a long time to find a job that I felt I would be comfortable in...( I suffer from Anxiety and Depression too....but both are under control from medication and are related to the Cancer diagnosis and do not affect my work )......I was ready to make the move...( the job I'm in has become a kind of 'comfort zone' )....now I feel I may well regret moving to this new job ( if it ever materialised!!).
Maybe it takes a while in this part of the care sector to get things in place???.....or maybe thats just my wishful thinking0 -
Well I was thinking of not contacting them at all now and waiting to see how long it takes them to contact me!!
That is exactly what I would do in your shoes.
They need a housekeeper, they have offered you the job, they have all the paperwork, what could be the problem? If they still intend to employ you, you should get a letter early next week.I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.0 -
Well still nothing!!....have noticed that they are advertising for a new manager now!!
Do you think now would be a good time to put pen to paper?0 -
Well still nothing!!....have noticed that they are advertising for a new manager now!!
Do you think now would be a good time to put pen to paper?
Yes.
How you approach this very much depends on whether you still want to push them into giving you the job, or whether you are following this through to see what happens and possibly make a complaint about them for discrimination.
If it is the latter, just send a short e-mail to the home, to the normal address, saying:
Dear (whoever you normally write to)
Re: Position of housekeeper
I refer to earlier correspondence and look forward to hearing from you with a start date so that I may give notice to my current employer.
Yours sincerely
Skibadee
For the moment don't copy it to HR, just wait and see what happens.
EDIT
It would be useful to compile a timeline of what has happened, starting from the job application and going through to today. If you can post it here, we can see where we are up to. It would look something like this:
01.10.2012 - position of housekeeper at Anytown Home advertised in Anytown Chronicle
02.10.2012 - application submitted for position of housekeeper
12.10.2012 - received letter inviting me for interview for post
18.10.2012 - attended interview at Anytown Home; interview held by Ms Smith and Ms Jones (discussed previous illness and treatment of cancer)
20.10.2012 - received letter, signed by Ms Smith, offering me the post of housekeeper, subject to medical.
22.10.2012 - returned medical forms to Anytown home as requested
24.10.2012 - received telephone call from Ms Bloggs, manager of home, informing me that job offer had been withdrawn because I had failed the medical owing to previous illness with cancer
etc
etcI'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.0 -
zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »Yes.
How you approach this very much depends on whether you still want to push them into giving you the job, or whether you are following this through to see what happens and possibly make a complaint about them for discrimination.
If it is the latter, just send a short e-mail to the home, to the normal address, saying:
Dear (whoever you normally write to)
Re: Position of housekeeper
I refer to earlier correspondence and look forward to hearing from you with a start date so that I may give notice to my current employer.
Yours sincerely
Skibadee
For the moment don't copy it to HR, just wait and see what happens.
Thank you, have just done that.0 -
LOL! That was quick Skib!
If you go back to my post, you will see that I have edited it.
If you can compile a timeline of events and post it here, that would be useful.
DxI'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.0
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