Nice people thread part 7 - a thread in its prime

lostinrates

Well done miss kool. Impressive....we have managed it, but in much more clement weather, warmer rather than drier.

LydiaJ

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Having worked for a prosecutor for a number of years I found it very scary how the institutional view was that we should lobby the givt to make it easier to prosecute. A number of the senior people used to preach about how much better it would be if there was a presumption of guilt when sufficient evidence existed for there to be a "reasonable suspicion" and there was an even stronger view that juries should not be trusted with anything as important as deciding whether someone was guilty or not - everyone wanted juries replaced with a panel of three judges.

I think it was probably all borne out of frustration. I spent three years of my life building a wall of evidence against a sophisticated frausdster, the centre piece of which was his own confession which he had emailed to a colleague. The jury found him not guilty (he had stolen the life savings of hundreds of pensioners). I couldn't believe it - and they didn't even have to explain themselves. If you're constantly up against that I can see why you would want the system changed -- however, you would soon change your mind if you were on the receiving end!

Very frustrating. I feel for you.

I do think complicated fraud is a bit of a special case. It's difficult to see how to solve the problem of giving the defendant a fair trial in front of people who aren't biased, and have both the mental capacity and the time available to weigh the evidence properly.

lostinrates

We (parent and dh and I ) have been discussing groping over a cup of tea.

Ime it's more likely to be groped if you live in central zones of London (it's harder to get groped if you are sitting down) and travel at peak times (crush definitely helps conceal gropers)

I asked parent why my parents never took action against the rural neighbour grouper and parent says they thought other parent had dealt with it, and I said I didn't think that was good enough.

I am absolutely sure there are more gropers/sexual predators of all descriptions, but that we are just getting more and more comfortable about admitting it, talking about it, accepting that rape is not the only sexual assualt, and that copping a feel (in most situations) is also inappropriate and can be damaging for many people.

Fwiw, I do not feel scarred by the groper, I have had many before and since, and worse sexual assault IMO. Hopefully we will soon get to the stage where it can be accepted that people can be concerned about sexual assualt they suffered without being traumatised, or wi long term impact, just as some peoe can suffer greater impact from a lesser assault.

PasturesNew

misskool wrote: »

Today's harvest. I'm so proud, we've never managed squash before.

Gotta work out what to do with it now.... if that's ALL you eat ... there's enough to keep you going for 2-3 months there

Just add some chips.

I'm not aware of ever having had squash.

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

We (parent and dh and I ) have been discussing groping over a cup of tea.

Bad idea, somebody'll drop their cup. Best to put tea out of the way before groping.

PasturesNew

I've hardly moved off the sofa for the WHOLE weekend!

I suppose I must have moved at some point as the following seem to have occurred: shopping for food, washing done, ironed something badly, kitchen floor cleared, meals cooked, all washing up done, whole place vacuumed, bins taken out, blown bulb replaced ..... I just don't notice it going on.

misskool

is it too early to be buying a birthday present for 3 december? i've found all the bits, just wondering.

also worried i'll be buying the wrong thing but guess i've just got to go for it.

PasturesNew

misskool wrote: »

is it too early to be buying a birthday present for 3 december? i've found all the bits, just wondering.

also worried i'll be buying the wrong thing but guess i've just got to go for it.

Buy it - it won't get forgotten/too late that way.

And, if you change your mind later, it becomes their Xmas present.... another job ticked off

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

I've hardly moved off the sofa for the WHOLE weekend!

I suppose I must have moved at some point as the following seem to have occurred: shopping for food, washing done, ironed something badly, kitchen floor cleared, meals cooked, all washing up done, whole place vacuumed, bins taken out, blown bulb replaced ..... I just don't notice it going on.

Is ll away?

I am thrilled today. It's like 'I' am back.

Today we.....cut the grass in the front, the back and the track to the Cake, weeded some garden, planted out some wall flowers and pansies, um...cleaned out the big and the small chicken house, walked the dogs, went to buy veg at the suppermarket, planted two trees, did the horse barn, dh did a tip run while I did some laundry and cleaning, opened windows and did an airing the house dance, closed the windows (one is a two person job), brought a little wood in, cut down the wild flower bed (has to be done) and started raking it and weeding it (still more of that to do). Cut down the hollyhocks....they were on last legs, and finally ....found the light up flashing balloons we bought for pennies after last Halloween ready for this one.

I am girding loins to make supper, and I want to clean out two drawers and spend some time tidying the room with dh ( mutual stuff I cannot take unilateral decisions over)


None of those are big or not routine jobs of course, but they are ones that have floored me for months now, yet I have done them today and reached the end of the day not weeping with exhaustion (or just asleep) and still feel ready for more and not to tired for some meaning ful time with dh. I do npot have any extraordianry pains or crises of health and I am feeling excited that now is good for me. I would not mind doing some yoga, try and find some opforgotton muscles and give and support for the poor old bod) but I don't think we will have time.

I am also really ready to have the bath back. A soak in a bath would be just the ticket now, to feel scented and softened and rejuvenated, but it's a want, not a need as it has felt this summer when my body hurt so very much and I wanted to bath it to ease pain, now it's just a 'nicety' so I can cope without.

lostinrates

Missk, I bought a Christmas gift on eBay today so I don't think it's too early.