Dulux is the anti-christ: Sikkens yellows

Leif

I had to take a handle off a door, as it needed another coat of paint for reasons that are too tedious to go into. Anyway, I was shocked to see that the area beneath the handle was yellow, not just off white, but an obvious pale yellow. So much for Dulux customer services telling me they had never had a case of Sikkens white oil based paint going yellow. :mad:

I can only assume this applies to the normal Dulux satin oil based wood paint too. It goes yellow much more slowly than the gloss, I painted a loft door with the Dulux gloss, and that went yellow in months, and it had some light exposure too. It is of course well known that the oil based gloss goes yellow. I can only guess how long it will take for areas of white paint in the hall, and elsewhere, to go yellow.

savemoney

I used in early Summer Dulux eggshell in front porch which gets light from front and two sides and is south facing. I painted a mdf shelf around the windows with 1 coat. I keep houseplants on the shelf. 4-6 weeks later under the plants its going yellow. We are more or less now forced to use in some places water based paint which does not give a better finish and is not as robust as oil based paint

Leif

savemoney wrote: »

We are more or less now forced to use in some places water based paint which does not give a better finish and is not as robust as oil based paint

That last point is the problem isn't it? Either way the paint does not wear.

tlh858

All oil paints go yellow if there is no light. This isn't a new thing either.

Hence it will always be yellow under handles and other fixtures, or in rooms with no natural light.

Barneysmom

I don't buy it any more, I get the B&Q Colour Everywhere satin.
I've given up on gloss now.

blossomhill_2

I am sick of Dulux yellowing, I switched to Brewers' own brand, Albany which so far has stayed nice and white

cyclonebri1

Wickes own label white oil based gloss is the best paint of that type I have ever used, finishes beautifully, but still yellows, sorry.

But don't forget you are on a winner.
Buy pure white paint and it's a tenner, ask for white with "a touch of cream" and it's £17.50 please:D:D:D

bob_a_builder

which so far has stayed nice and white

"so far" is not a recognised unit of time as far as I know - care to clarify

NeverInDebt

You can thank the EU busy bodies at Brussels who spend all there time thinking of ways to make our lives difficult and justify their jobs

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2125640/Duluxs-brilliant-white-paint-fades-yellow-weeks-EU-regulations-forced-watering-companys-pay-thousands-unsatisfied-customers.html

"Dulux has admitted the problem was caused by new EU regulations which forced it to water down solvent levels in the paint."

The same busy bodies probably made same decision to cut down on plastic for carrier bags so we may now need two. Only other week I bought some rubble bags only to find they are much thinner now than previous lot and they split easier so wont last as long. Same with supermarket bags, whilst I do use my own I occasionally do have to use supermarket bags and they hold next to nowt now.

I am all for saving planet but some of the decisions are just plain stupid still they dont live in real world

Terrysdelight

I'm intrigued by this thread......

For years I've thought it was my imagination that my white paint was going yellow.

My dad is a professional painter and decorator (retired now) and whenever he does my painting - he always insists on using 'oil based'.

So now things are making sense - outside - backdoor and fascia - all beaming white still after several years (loads of light). And in my hallway which is dark - not much natural light - the paintwork goes a dirty yellow really quickly!!!

OK - so I don't want dirty yellow in my hallway - I can suffer chips and scuffs because I can easily touch up. What do I use though - white satin - water based or gloss water based?

keystone

Leif wrote: »

So much for Dulux customer services telling me they had never had a case of Sikkens white oil based paint going yellow. :mad:

I can believe that. The Dulux people have probably very little knowledge of Sikkens coatings which only came into their rough sphere when AzcoNobel bought ICI.

Any spirit based paint will yellow if you deprive it totally of light. Any spirit based paint (notwithstanding the VOC 2010 problems) will yellow if you apply it directly over a stained, yellowed finish without first properly prepping it. The previous yellow/muck whatever just leeches through in time. I went off Dulux Trade Gloss a couple of years ago for various different reasons and switched to Crown Solo. Afer a rubdown and a coat of 123 to seal/prime/undercoat I've not yet had one report of the paint yellowing unless its had no light whatsoever. Mind you the last property I did completely inside with Dulux Trade Gloss hasn't yellowed either and that was 2½ years ago. Whilst I can't defend Dulux et al for their problems (not necessarily of their making but their approach hasn't been brilliant) I'm going to suggest that many of the reports of yellowing paint are not necessarily just down to the paint.

Anyway I'm experimenting a bit with a waterbased gloss now that flows and works like spirit based gloss (rather than silk emulsion) and gives a shine almost as good as spirit based or so close that you can hardly detect the difference. To my mind its even more of the dogs danglers than the Solo. What? Oh yes. It's Johnstones Aqua. Need to adjust your technique though.

Cheers