We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Landlord has put rent up - can I protest

12467

Comments

  • ahxcjb
    ahxcjb Posts: 209 Forumite
    I bet YOU pay more for your fuel and food now than you did in 2008! You ridiculous dope!

    What is the relevance? Just because fuel and food rises, does not mean that rent should increase. Why can't you understand this?
  • 19lottie82 wrote: »
    Eh? How do you work that out? Pretty difficult when you don't know anything about the property, or what similar ones in the local area are going for?

    I'm a bit on the fence re the OP as we don't have a lot of info to go on, but your opinions seem pretty ridiculous, considering this!

    Just out of curiosity, how do you propose to work out what a property is "worth"?

    PS OP, try talking to your LL, if you have been a good tennent for the past 4 years, it's likely he won't chuck you out for the sake of £100 pcm.

    Explain that you just can't afford it and if he insists, then you'll have to move. Or offer to meet him half way at £50?

    RuggedToast is barmy - that's how he knows nothing and gets everything all wrong!:p
  • It makes me sick that these parasites can put the rent up £100 and threaten a working family with homelessness.

    Thats an extra £1200 a year for doing nothing.

    I let a property out. My mortgage payments went up 3 months ago by £500 a year and that is on a £60k LTB mortgage.

    So whilst you may think that the extra £1200 a year is for doing nothing, you may find that the LL doesn't get to see any of it.
  • ahxcjb
    ahxcjb Posts: 209 Forumite
    I let a property out. My mortgage payments went up 3 months ago by £500 a year and that is on a £60k LTB mortgage.

    So whilst you may think that the extra £1200 a year is for doing nothing, you may find that the LL doesn't get to see any of it.

    That's the risk you take with becoming a landlord. Why should your tenant have to pay for your increase in mortgage fees?
  • ahxcjb wrote: »
    What is the relevance? Just because fuel and food rises, does not mean that rent should increase. Why can't you understand this?

    You must be soooo dense if you can't understand that prices RISE with inflation!

    And actually - YES - rents do indeed rise when everything else rises. Landlords have to pay for their food and fuel too you know!

    Doh!!!
  • Notmyrealname
    Notmyrealname Posts: 4,003 Forumite
    edited 26 September 2012 at 2:45PM
    ahxcjb wrote: »
    That's the risk you take with becoming a landlord. Why should your tenant have to pay for your increase in mortgage fees?

    Who says they have? I haven't increased the rent in 2 years and won't be this year.

    I was merely pointing out that for many LLs, mortgage interest rates have risen.
    Heliflyguy wrote:
    why are rents rising? not down to the interest rate is it.
    Mine has risen as has many others.
    jjlandlord wrote:
    I don't think that landlords' costs have increased in the past years
    Mine have. Gas safety check is more than last year, LL insurance is more than last year. Find me any LL who is paying less for LL insurance than the previous year.
    ahxcjb wrote: »

    We should have a regulated rental market like Germany has. Would solve a lot of problems.

    Why would it? Under the German PRS system, a landlord cannot increase the rent by more than 20 percent in a three-year period. They can still raise it though and far more than I have or would ever intend to in the same period.
  • ahxcjb
    ahxcjb Posts: 209 Forumite
    You must be soooo dense if you can't understand that prices RISE with inflation!

    And actually - YES - rents do indeed rise when everything else rises. Landlords have to pay for their food and fuel too you know!

    Doh!!!

    No, they _don't_. Go and read up on inflation. Do you even have a degree or any education in economics?

    Hint: it is PRICES that dictate inflation, NOT the other way round as you appear to think.
  • For what it's worth - my sensible response to this:

    Are you a good tenant? Do you look after the house? Do you think you're landlord wants to keep you as a tenant? If the answer to this is is yes, it's a good start.

    Have a look at similar rental properties in the area and compare rent prices. Can you get a comparable property that costs £1200?

    I would speak to your landlord & explain that you are having hard times financially (I don't think he/ she will be surprised given that half the country is in the same boat). Show your landlord the other comparable properties that still cost £1200ish. Explain that if the rent goes up to £1300 you could not possibly afford it & would have to move out, but you'd prefer not to because you love the house & think he/ she is a great landlord.

    It is likely to cost your landlord a few hundred £'s to find a new tenant if you leave, and also run the risk of getting a bad tenant - so often it is in their interest to try to get you to stay at the property. Perhaps you could negotiate on these grounds. Maybe only put up the rent by £50, or put off the increase for 12 months...?

    Worth a try.

    Your only other options are:
    1 - Pay the new rent and carry on living there.
    2 - Pack your bags and get ready to move out (I won't go into your rights here, suffice to say that the landlord has to follow a strict procedure to get you out even if you are in rent arrears. he can't just change the locks).
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,467 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Since 2008 house prices have dropped, wages have stagnated, but still parasites raise rental fees and exploit lax housing regulation to bully extortionate fees out of families that can barely afford them.

    At £1200 I'd wager that their rent is about £600 more than it should be already. There should be rent controls and security of tenure in place to stop the vultures raiding their tenants bank balances whenever they feel like it.

    Sure, moving house is no big deal when you have kids who are in school.

    What a joke. You clearly don't have a clue.

    You choose to start at 2008. However, if you go back say 20 years to 1992, the market rent on a 2 bed flat in N London has risen by about 50%. Over the same period house prices have risen between 3-fold and 5-fold. So, I have no idea how you can say what a rent "should be", but the historical analogy does not work in your favour. Of course, what has happened is that investors piling into B2L have reduced rents in real terms very considerably. In many cases, LLs are getting under 5% gross, which does not pay the mortgage.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,467 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    G_M wrote: »
    Though yours seems temperamental too. "Service unavailable" some of the time!

    If you ask the government why their website is broken, I expect they'll blame it on the LibDems, same as everything else. :)
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.4K Life & Family
  • 258.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.