Landlord has put rent up - can I protest

G_M

GDB2222 wrote: »

Can that page be amended. It took me a while to find a S13 notice, as the link does not work. Here's a new link http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/housing/doc/tenancyform4b.doc

Thanks.

I've updated the S13 link within my Rent increases post with yours as you are right - mine was broken.

Though yours seems temperamental too. "Service unavailable" some of the time!

But I appeciate you pointing it out.

runninglea

A lot of the time its the management company who suggest the increase therefore increasing their cut!

Cody

Hi All,

Thanks for the advice...and the lively debate.

I was posting for some basic advice, although the posts have stirred my opinions regarding renting in this country, it sucks! My partner and I earn well above the national wage but currently have zero chance of ever saving enough to get on the housing ladder, we do not have rich relatives who can throw us a deposit. We should have stayed at our parents when we were younger and saved more in our twenties, but we were getting educated with masters degrees!, our mistake I feel now! Renting shouldnt be the stressful existance it is, but it is in the UK and particulry in London!, my family and I could be turfed out within a couple of months, which stops where we are living feel like home, but more like someone elses home (which it is). Could always sign a year tenancy again but that is still a very short time period. I envy countries where there is rent control, where there are very long term leases and people can make their rental home actually feel like home, and not be afraid to paint a wall or put a hook into it....sorry, rant over.

Our son started school 3 weeks ago, he is 4, I certainly do not intend to put him through the stress of moving house and possibly moving school at such a young age. We would have to move a long way to find lower rent for a house size we need, and then commute costs increase, so outgoings remain the same.

Problem is I live in the UK and work in london, I'm british and my family are here and I am allowed to work here, so I will just have to get on with it. Our rent is resonable for the area, but our income has dropped over last years due to kids and economic situation in our jobs. If I can avoid paying the increase I need to, otherwise budget cutting continues and selling the family jewls (kids toys, random bits of furniture) continues.

Again, thanks for the advice, I think I know now how I will tackle this.

Cody

19lottie82

ruggedtoast wrote: »

At £1200 I'd wager that their rent is about £600 more than it should be already

Eh? How do you work that out? Pretty difficult when you don't know anything about the property, or what similar ones in the local area are going for?

I'm a bit on the fence re the OP as we don't have a lot of info to go on, but your opinions seem pretty ridiculous, considering this!

Just out of curiosity, how do you propose to work out what a property is "worth"?

PS OP, try talking to your LL, if you have been a good tennent for the past 4 years, it's likely he won't chuck you out for the sake of £100 pcm.

Explain that you just can't afford it and if he insists, then you'll have to move. Or offer to meet him half way at £50?

00ec25

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Since 2008 house prices have dropped, wages have stagnated, but still parasites raise rental fees and exploit lax housing regulation to bully extortionate fees out of families that can barely afford them.

oh great argument backed by the politics of envy

why not concentrate on improving your own situation in life.
how about getting a set of valuable qualifications and a new job so you can afford to improve your lot in life rather than just ranting about how poor you are
this is a capitalist economy so yes prices are governed by supply and demand. For example I doubt you work for free or do not desire a pay rise even if you productivity has not increased - same argument as yours...

breadlinebetty

GDB2222 wrote: »

Presumably, when the price of your newspaper goes up 10p, that's 10p "for doing nothing" and also makes you sick. Likewise fuel for the car, fares, clothing, etc. Why do you think that rents should not be subject to inflation?

People get angry when their rent goes up, but they don't get angry when their wages go up!!:money:

OF COURSE rents have to go up.....it's called inflation.

Twenty years ago rents were a pttance compared to what they are now, and in 20 years time they'll make today's prices seem a pittance too.

If the landlord wants to increase his rent AFTER A FULL 4 YEARS - he has every right to so. Prices have gone up. How dare people call him greedy for putting up the price?

If you can't afford the rent find somewhere cheaper!

ahxcjb

00ec25 wrote: »

oh great argument backed by the politics of envy

why not concentrate on improving your own situation in life.
how about getting a set of valuable qualifications and a new job so you can afford to improve your lot in life rather than just ranting about how poor you are
this is a capitalist economy so yes prices are governed by supply and demand. For example I doubt you work for free or do not desire a pay rise even if you productivity has not increased - same argument as yours...

Total and utter nonsense. I'm in the top 5% of earners in the UK, and I echo the sentiments entirely of the original poster; this has nothing to do with 'politics of envy'. It has everything to do with landlords being greedy bar stewards at a time when people are really struggling. They know people can't afford to buy, so they rape them through rental charges.

We should have a regulated rental market like Germany has. Would solve a lot of problems.

breadlinebetty

Heliflyguy wrote: »

For a start that fact the rent hasnt gone up for 4 years is irrelevent and not a reason to put up a rent, so the question is why are rents rising? not down to the interest rate is it.

You could say market forces driven by greedy landlords and equally greedy letting agents taking advantage of supply and demand, is this the perspective you talk about?

Without knowing both sides of the story its impossible to say if its fair/right or not.
Problem is that the business of housing is not a good mix in England at the moment.

Also the likley scenario of getting evicted in that way could be considered as making themselves homeless so no help from the council there.

Yes, if you intentionally make yourself homeless you're really stuck!

ahxcjb

jjlandlord wrote: »

We should keep in mind that the inflation figure as defined by the CPI and RPI is the result of price fluctuation, not the cause of it.
Price fluctuation is due to supply and demand, also to underlying costs.

I don't think that landlords' costs have increased in the past years, so I would think that the main cause of rent fluctuation is the result of supply and demand in the local market.
So in the context of OP's question it really demands on the local conditions.

Indeed. The person you're replying to completely mis-understands both the concept of inflation and what economic factors are behind a rise - or fall - in inflation. Maybe they should get 'educated' like the previous poster recommends? *chortle*

breadlinebetty

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Since 2008 house prices have dropped, wages have stagnated, but still parasites raise rental fees and exploit lax housing regulation to bully extortionate fees out of families that can barely afford them.

At £1200 I'd wager that their rent is about £600 more than it should be already. There should be rent controls and security of tenure in place to stop the vultures raiding their tenants bank balances whenever they feel like it.

Sure, moving house is no big deal when you have kids who are in school.

What a joke. You clearly don't have a clue.

I bet YOU pay more for your fuel and food now than you did in 2008! You ridiculous dope!