Electric heating

Richie-from-the-Boro

- we here all know they are pretty damn useless at what they do and don't publish price lists
- we all know they sell to the unwary - behind closed doors - away from scrutiny - with sales men who .. .. er .. .. call at the house
- we all know the marketing pdf's they do publish are riddled with inaccuracy's and sheer blinding impossibilities
- we all know they're about £1500 per 1.5kWh unit installed and a 3.4kWh normal storage rad can be had for about £500

Seven-day-weekend said in #7 that they were the same price they are not, standard E7 night store heaters are :

- 1/3 of the price by comparison
- for 3 times the capacity / ability
- you can buy 10 half kWh night store heaters for 1 of the snake oil type
- and use 60% less money to heat up at night

Put conversely Seven-day-weekend's choice is :

- 3 times the price by comparison
- 60% less output ability
- and cost 60% more money to heat up
- and take forever to warm a room

Seven-day-weekend. Your choice and opinions are yours and you are entitled to them. However you asserted the wonderful [ness] of a system that really is a lifestyle choice of aesthetics .. good looks over substance only.

There is no substantial benefit, indeed they don't even remotely come close to a comparison with night store. They hardly even manage to heat anything other than a small room in any way that is worthwhile, because, like a two bar 50's electric fire it takes ages to get up to speed and is an instant fridge the minute you turn it off.

Just as an aside regarding one of your earlier comments an entire dwelling can have new like~for~like replacement modern night store heaters installed for NOWT. Three wires just like changing a plug on a kettle except [20a] isolation is required - doddle of a job.

dannymccann

tommy-g wrote: »

I can understand the logic in not using the immerser to heat water but does that mean he washes his hands in cold water after visiting the bathroom?

Genuine question, whats the issue with doing this? I never wash my hands with the hot tap after going to the loo / handling raw meat etc. We have anti-bac soap...

tommy-g_3

dannymccann wrote: »

Genuine question, whats the issue with doing this? I never wash my hands with the hot tap after going to the loo / handling raw meat etc. We have anti-bac soap...

TBH my real issue is 100s of people all over the world would love to have running hot water, and we as a nation would never consider a house without it. And here is some body who chooses not to have it.

seven-day-weekend

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

- we here all know they are pretty damn useless at what they do and don't publish price lists
- we all know they sell to the unwary - behind closed doors - away from scrutiny - with sales men who .. .. er .. .. call at the house
- we all know the marketing pdf's they do publish are riddled with inaccuracy's and sheer blinding impossibilities
- we all know they're about £1500 per 1.5kWh unit installed and a 3.4kWh normal storage rad can be had for about £500

Seven-day-weekend said in #7 that they were the same price they are not, standard E7 night store heaters are :

And

- 1/3 of the price by comparison
- for 3 times the capacity / ability
- you can buy 10 half kWh night store heaters for 1 of the snake oil type
- and use 60% less money to heat up at night

Put conversely Seven-day-weekend's choice is :

- 3 times the price by comparison
- 60% less output ability
- and cost 60% more money to heat up
- and take forever to warm a room

Seven-day-weekend. Your choice and opinions are yours and you are entitled to them. However you asserted the wonderful [ness] of a system that really is a lifestyle choice of aesthetics .. good looks over substance only.

There is no substantial benefit, indeed they don't even remotely come close to a comparison with night store. They hardly even manage to heat anything other than a small room in any way that is worthwhile, because, like a two bar 50's electric fire it takes ages to get up to speed and is an instant fridge the minute you turn it off.

Just as an aside regarding one of your earlier comments an entire dwelling can have new like~for~like replacement modern night store heaters installed for NOWT. Three wires just like changing a plug on a kettle except [20a] isolation is required - doddle of a job.

He got three radiators for £900. so I don't know where your £1.5k for each unit price has come from.

No-one called at the house

IIRC the price list is on the website.

They heat the flat far better than the old storage heaters ever did, and when you want it to.

So what you have said is not accurate.

fishybusiness

There is no substantial benefit, indeed they don't even remotely come close to a comparison with night store. They hardly even manage to heat anything other than a small room in any way that is worthwhile, because, like a two bar 50's electric fire it takes ages to get up to speed and is an instant fridge the minute you turn it off.

Are you referring to the Aldi/ Argos or wherever else sells cheap electric heaters?

Or even expensive rip off heaters.

Night storage is great...or is it?

Lots of people come here looking for alternatives to night storage, and cheap convector heaters.

Unfortunately those of us with electricity only in our properties have to make compromises. Storage heaters certainly have their benefits, but come evening they can get cool, necessitating other forms of electric heating. They leak heat, which for downstairs is ok, but for bedrooms often not -it is a waste of energy. Panel heaters are more controllable, look better, which for many people is important but during winter cost much more to run.

There is no right answer, £300 per radiator, is comparable to storage heaters, and if they do the job, what is the problem?

seven-day-weekend

My friend has four storage heaters in her two-bedroom flat. Even in spring and autumn (let alone winter) she has to supplement them with other electric heating.

She also is now having electric radiators installed.

Thank you fishybusiness for sticking up for these heaters, as you say if your accommodation are all electric then there is always a compromise.

mharwood04

i have panel dimplex heaters in my 2 bed flat which is quite small.....they cost me 45 pounds a week to run i have them on all day as that is how long they take to heat the flat up.....so all day u spend cold and in the evening it might b warm enough to take one jumper off....gch all the way....i cant wait to move 45 pounds a week to keep the chill off the air.

hubb

What about this?

http://www.economy-radiators.com/?gclid=CIHE3fuHtbMCFcbLtAodMmYAlw

seven-day-weekend

hubb wrote: »

What about this?

http://www.economy-radiators.com/?gclid=CIHE3fuHtbMCFcbLtAodMmYAlw

These are the radiators that everyone is saying are too expensive. My son has these and is very pleased with them, his bill has actually gone down from using the storage heaters. The heat is less wasteful and he can use it where and when he wants. He only heats the room he is in, when he is in it and so far has found the heaters to be very efficient.

If you have no gas supply then there is not a lot of choice, but storage heaters, imho, are inflexible, wasteful and inefficient.

hubb

We have GCH but no rad in the kitchen. We cannot get a plumber who wants to do the job of putting a single rad in a now very cold kitchen so this is our only option.