Police

Moglex

I've just seen yet another story on this and once again there is nothing about whether or not the officer was correct to try and stop Mitchell using the gate like any other vehicle.

I don't know about anyone else but I think this has at least some bearing on things.

derrick

Moglex wrote: »

Have you got a link to support that? I know that's true for the army but I'm pretty sure it isn't for the police.

Don't need one , they start as cadets, move to constables, sergeant, then officer.

I have not seen one, but I would be pretty certain that the contract of employment would state constable..

I spoke to a traffic cop the other day who informed me he was a "traffic officer" when I asked for his number it was PC****, now what do you think PC stands for in that instance?

Their job title below officer is constable, they are not officers.

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Moglex

derrick wrote: »

Don't need one , they start as cadets, move to constables, sergeant, then officer.

I have not seen one, but I would be pretty certain that the contract of employment would state constable..

I spoke to a traffic cop the other day who informed me he was a "traffic officer" when I asked for his number it was PC****, now what do you think PC stands for in that instant?

Their job title below officer is constable, they are not officers.

I'm afraid you're confused. The fact that someone is a constable no more stops them being an officer than does being an inspector.

For your information, all police officers are constables, right up to the chief constable.

derrick

Moglex wrote: »

I'm afraid you're confused. The fact that someone is a constable no more stops them being an officer than does being an inspector.

For your information, all police officers are constables, right up to the chief constable.

Not confused, just correct.

You wanted a link? Here are 3,plenty more via Google

http://www.policeuk.com/police_ranks.php

http://www.police999.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=54:general-police-info&id=1444:uk-police-ranks

http://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/information/students_researchers/ranks.aspx


Officers do not have warrant/shoulder numbers.PC's do.

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alex21

derrick wrote: »

Can we stop elevating the status of police constables to officer status, most of the police are employed as constables, officer status only being above sergeants.

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Irrelevant to thread. Inappropriate. Nitpicking.

Moglex

derrick wrote: »

Not confused, just correct.

You wanted a link? Here are 3,plenty more via Google

http://www.policeuk.com/police_ranks.php

http://www.police999.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=54:general-police-info&id=1444:uk-police-ranks

http://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/information/students_researchers/ranks.aspx


Officers do not have warrant/shoulder numbers.PC's do.

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Not ONE of those sources states that any rank is not an officer. So not only is it irrelevant, inappropriate nitpicking, it is also WRONG.

derrick

Moglex wrote: »

Not ONE of those sources states that any rank is not an officer. So not only is it irrelevant, inappropriate nitpicking, it is also WRONG.

They show a list of ranks, constable is at the bottom, below the ranks of officers!

Could a constable tell an inspector to do something? No
Could an inspector tell a constable to do something? Yes.

Stop elevating constables to something they are not, they are constables, hence the PC before their number on their shoulders!

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RadoJo

From the first link you posted:
"Every police officer in the United Kingdom is issued with a warrant number at their date of joining. This warrant number remains with them throughout their career but is completely seperate from their shoulder number ("PC 123") which is visible on their shoulder epaulette up to and including the rank of sergeant.

Larger forces such as the Metropolitan Police assign divisional shoulder numbers to officers, so for example there may be a "PC 123 BC" as well as a "PC 123 DR"."

Surely that shows the term 'officer' is used to describe members of the police force from the date they join, and none of the links seem to use the word 'officer' to describe rank.

Poppie68

derrick wrote: »

They show a list of ranks, constable is at the bottom, below the ranks of officers!

Could a constable tell an inspector to do something? No
Could an inspector tell a constable to do something? Yes.

Stop elevating constables to something they are not, they are constables, hence the PC before their number on their shoulders!




..As already pointed out this is totally inappropiate and irrelevant to the OP's post.... But you really dont' know what you are talking about.

stormbreaker

derrick wrote: »

Officers do not have warrant/shoulder numbers.PC's do.

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ALL police OFFICERS have personal numbers regardless of rank!