Latvian Mother of 10 received £34k benefits

John_Pierpoint

CrazyLatvian wrote: »

Its depends what is your understanding about luxuries, trip to Spain paid from benefits. hmm, someone is working overtime and 12h shifts and paying taxes. Well, sure it is not my business how someone is spending own earned money, but benefits are taxpayer money and should work to get people back to work ASAP (improve/change qualification, help in some emergency situation, etc).

TheBane wrote: »

It would not benefit anyone except her. She should not have 10 kids if she can not pay for them.

I think the point I am trying to make is that nobody should bring 10 kids into this overpopulated world.

It costs well into 6 figures to raise each child and then someone has to make a similar capital investment to provide each of them with a job.

A single foreign woman cannot begin to pay her way in our society.

Even if the couple with a Chelsea tractor think they can afford their costs, they cannot as the one planet on which we live, is probably already overpopulated and approaching the limits to growth.

This place has a reasonably high GDP but is it sustainable and would you want to live there?

Jenna_Appleseed

wonder if this was as real as the recent 'immigrant living it up on our benefits' story in the sun that's apparently been exposed as fake & an actor.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d41_1358695369&comments=1
funnily enough The Sun have deleted comments asking them about it from their facebook.:whistle:

dktreesea

The_White_Horse wrote: »

I have a similar problem with the Gruniad. Especially Polly Toynbee.

The issue is, this Latvian woman is here solely to claim free money. If there were NO benefits here, she would not be here.

Benefits should not be available to any immigrant (EU or not) until they have paid in for at least 10 years. That includes NHS and education.

It won't really cause a problem, because no one will come anymore.

Also, if she was English, she would still make me sick to my stomach. This is why the child benefit change is a disgrace. It should have been available to all but restricted to two kids max. This way it discourages breeding for cash.

Also, NO ONE should EVER get more than a two bedroom flat on benefits. If you have no cash and want 3 or 30 children, good for you - you pay for them and you house them.

Lefties are the scourge of the universe.

The lady in question would presumably have been entitled to some benefits in whichever EU country she chose to reside in. It just so happens, in Britain, that children related benefits for those that don't earn much are open ended. Yes, of course she's breeding. It pays well to breed in Britain. She, presumably, likes to have children, and lives in a country that will pay handsomely for her to do just that. Right up until they are 16 - or 19 if continuing on to certain types of education.

As you say, if we don't want that, we should restrict the amount of benefit available for children to, say, two children per family. We already restrict the amount of housing benefit payable to a 4 bedroom home rate. Maybe it is about time we limited the amount of benefit payable for children.

GeorgeHowell

StevieJ wrote: »

I think you are losing it.

Not in the least, that is typical socialist levelling down thinking, and if you can recognise it as such then you are deluded and in denial.

wymondham

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

I think the point I am trying to make is that nobody should bring 10 kids into this overpopulated world.

It costs well into 6 figures to raise each child and then someone has to make a similar capital investment to provide each of them with a job.

A single foreign woman cannot begin to pay her way in our society.

Even if the couple with a Chelsea tractor think they can afford their costs, they cannot as the one planet on which we live, is probably already overpopulated and approaching the limits to growth.

This place has a reasonably high GDP but is it sustainable and would you want to live there?

I seriously hope those buildings have lifts!

John_Pierpoint

.....and a backup power supply and no chance of an earthquake ?

I believe the Glasgow was the first industrial city, where in the Gorbals district, the population could not all leave their flats (tenements) at the same time because the density was so high there was not even standing room on the street. Fortunately we no longer need to be able to walk to work and do 12 hours a day 6 days per week.

There is an interesting passage in this book where one of the characters finds herself "up the duff" and rejoices in the thought of being ten shillings a week better off in benefits:

Plus ca change............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Mean_City

(Perhaps becoming a single mother was a little more forgiveable in the 1930s
forgive me if I have slightly misquoted the book, as I read it when living in the socialist paradise of the "new" Gorbals in 1965)



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-11462522

Lots of similar paradise flats built in Eastern Europe in the 1970s

leveller2911

wymondham wrote: »

I seriously hope those buildings have lifts!

Oh I don't know, making the staircases would be a nice little earner....;)

Treadmill

34k is not much to raise 10 kids on.

John_Pierpoint

Quite right by the time you have factored in the free medical care and free education, free food, free water, free school journeys, not to mention all the other tax exemptions, the costs will be well over a million pounds for you and me and our fellow tax payers to raise these kids.
Perhaps the father(s) will chip in?

I wonder if we will get value for money ?

Sampong

Jenna_Appleseed wrote: »

wonder if this was as real as the recent 'immigrant living it up on our benefits' story in the sun that's apparently been exposed as fake & an actor.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d41_1358695369&comments=1
funnily enough The Sun have deleted comments asking them about it from their facebook.:whistle:

So where has it been exposed as a fake story then? It was always stated that she did part time work - obviously acting and modelling is it.

If the story was fake - then they would be forced to publish a retraction from the PCC.