CT Benefit ending April 2013

krisskross

woodbine wrote: »

so you want to see a return to the poll tax?interesting that

OP ctb isnt ending,from next april it will be run by the councils with a 10% cut in the budget,all oaps will be protected as will the"vunerable"(although this hasn`t been defined)
its expected that most people who currently get 100% ctb will have to find around £38 a YEAR from next april

I would welcome a return to the poll tax. I was in favour 1st time round.

I seem to be reading that most recipients of CTB will be expected to find 20% of the bill. In our area that would be ~£20 a month rather than the £120 we have to pay. So I'm not sure where you get £38 a year from. Even 10% would be £120 a year.

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krisskross wrote: »

I would welcome a return to the poll tax. I was in favour 1st time round.

I seem to be reading that most recipients of CTB will be expected to find 20% of the bill. In our area that would be ~£20 a month rather than the £120 we have to pay. So I'm not sure where you get £38 a year from. Even 10% would be £120 a year.

the poll tax was unfair and led to the downfall of a pm
however,the figure of £38 was from a london borough,it will depend on how many oaps/vunerable live in any given area as to whats left to divvy up amongst the rest of the claimants
£20 a month from £73 jsa would be a disgrace

krisskross

woodbine wrote: »

the poll tax was unfair and led to the downfall of a pm
however,the figure of £38 was from a london borough,it will depend on how many oaps/vunerable live in any given area as to whats left to divvy up amongst the rest of the claimants
£20 a month from £73 jsa would be a disgrace

You shouldn't mix up monthly and weekly to attempt to make your point look good.

Explain to me why the poll tax was unfair. Didn't we all have to pay our share?

underling

woodbine wrote: »

the poll tax was unfair and led to the downfall of a pm
however,the figure of £38 was from a london borough,it will depend on how many oaps/vunerable live in any given area as to whats left to divvy up amongst the rest of the claimants
£20 a month from £73 jsa would be a disgrace

£20 per month is £5 per week. If someone doesn’t want /cant afford to pay it out of there JSA they could find a way to earn that amount, as you can earn £5pw without it affecting your JSA.

BigAunty

jimmann wrote: »

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Does everyone realise that council tax is ending April next year? Not many people talking about it thats all.

Why is it ending for you? It's not ending for everyone.

Also, it is taking place in England where the local councils will decide how they give discounts instead of having a national policy and this will see them give less discounts because central gov is giving them less budget. Scotland is not passing on the shortfall to its population.

The Poll tax, which was introduced a year early in Scotland, meant that the guinea pig nation just wiped out Tory voters there, an impact which is still felt today.

annie1975_2

daviecol wrote: »

Whilst I sympathise with anybody going through a hard time and I have hated the tories since Thatcher ruined our country.

One does have to face facts that we can't go on forever paying people to live in houses they can't afford or to have babies they can't afford.

Sometimes though people are in the cheapest accomodation possible.Someone on these boards once told me i was living beyond my means because my OH had lost his job and took a lower paid job,said i should move. But my mortgage is hell of a lot less than any rent...And as for having kids,my opinion on this is,if you are working and have your family then lose your job thats one thing, but when people are having kids when already out of work then thats another thing...

mrs_motivated

Something that is been considered by some local authorities is to reduce the period of time empty properties are exempt from council tax.

So whilst the current exemption period is usually 6 months, reducing this to 28 days thus making up some of the 10 percent reduction granted from central government.

When council tax benefit Is replaced in April with a scheme of 'localised support' the amount paid will depend on local demographics etc. so will become a postcode lottery;)

sunnyone

krisskross wrote: »

As pensioners we are hardly 'rich' I can assure you but apparently rich enough to pay full council tax.

I completely agree that EVERYONE should pay something towards the services provided by the council and I personally would include pensioners in that.

Same here, we pay nearly £200 per month council tax yet our only income is sickness/disability benefits (and less than £100pw personal pension) though we do get a band reduction due to me needing a wheelchair indoors.

The people who are hit the most are always the ones that just mis out on the generous income related benefits like council tax.

krisskross wrote: »

I would welcome a return to the poll tax. I was in favour 1st time round.

I seem to be reading that most recipients of CTB will be expected to find 20% of the bill. In our area that would be ~£20 a month rather than the £120 we have to pay. So I'm not sure where you get £38 a year from. Even 10% would be £120 a year.

I agreed with the comunity charge, it was a much fairer way of making sure everone who uses local services paid for those services.

Even if benefit clainants paid a reduced rate it will be fairer.

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krisskross wrote: »

You shouldn't mix up monthly and weekly to attempt to make your point look good.

Explain to me why the poll tax was unfair. Didn't we all have to pay our share?

no we didnt at the time i was working and on a decent income,my wife was a stay at home mum and we both had to pay the same,at the time that was almost £300 a year,the previous year our "rates"bill had been £340in total
that was hardly fair was it?

clemmatis

woodbine wrote: »

no we didnt at the time i was working and on a decent income,my wife was a stay at home mum and we both had to pay the same,at the time that was almost £300 a year,the previous year our "rates"bill had been £340in total
that was hardly fair was it?

Though I didn't support the poll tax, under a rates system, I -- I live alone -- pay as much as an entire family.

Hardly fair, is it?