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bazster

In the unlikely event that (i) that form is genuine and (ii) that POPLA refuses to even consider "groundless" appeals, rather than considering and rejecting them, all that is needed is to tick your box of choice and write some illiterate, vaguely-relevant twaddle in the reasons box. Even though the appeal has no chance of succeeding, they will have to consider it, and that'll be £27+VAT please Perky.

Having looked at the form again, though, I am now entirely satisfied that it's bogus.

ripped_off_driver

I'd say it's genuine. But time will tell.

If this independent appeal service is a sham popla will become very unpopla.

BASFORDLAD

bazster wrote: »

In the unlikely event that (i) that form is genuine and (ii) that POPLA refuses to even consider "groundless" appeals, rather than considering and rejecting them, all that is needed is to tick your box of choice and write some illiterate, vaguely-relevant twaddle in the reasons box. Even though the appeal has no chance of succeeding, they will have to consider it, and that'll be £27+VAT please Perky.

Having looked at the form again, though, I am now entirely satisfied that it's bogus.

Thats a lot of money that could be put towards pies.

I dont think its bogus, it seems something very BPA like, but the appeals web address isnt live yet and rejected my email

BASFORDLAD

Would FOI request be able to get to the bottom of the meetings between London councils and BPA?

bazster

BASFORDLAD wrote: »

Thats a lot of money that could be put towards pies.

I dont think its bogus, it seems something very BPA like, but the appeals web address isnt live yet and rejected my email

That's why I think it's bogus. It's supposed to be a POPLA form, not a BPA form. It's inept, it's illiterate, and it's far too one-eyed to be credible. Even if POPLA does turn out to be in the pocket of the BPA, no way are they going to make it that obvious.

patman99

If we all work together on this, then with a team effort, we can put quite a few of these PPCs out of business by deliberately getting as many tickets as we can, then appealing each one using one of the POPLA allowed appeals.

At £32 a pop, it shouldn't take to long to empty the accounts of the PPCs. We do however, need to concentrate on one at a time.

The_Slithy_Tove

We have yet to find out what the appeals system really is like. But how is it measured to be independent, as it should be? Who laid down the criteria for independence, and how is it measured? Is there any kind of regulator? As POPLA is formed from London Councils, does that make it a public body, and therefore subject to FoI? If so, great mischief could be caused digging into their processes around how the appeals system was set up. If a single BPA member or PPC operator is seen to be influencing POPLA's polciy, then it would clearly not be independent.

bargepole

AlexisV wrote: »

The mist is now beginning to clear.

As it appears the only possible grounds for 'appeal' are if the PPC made some sort of unlikely administration error, there are very few circumstances under which there would be genuine cause to make use of this 'service'.

Surely the fourth ground "I am not liable for this parking charge" is the way to go, accompanied with the reasons why the parking charge is an unenforceable penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss.

If it doesn't get upheld by POPLA, and the PPC takes it to court, this is the same line of argument that you would use.

The_Slithy_Tove

bargepole wrote: »

Surely the fourth ground "I am not liable for this parking charge" is the way to go, accompanied with the reasons why the parking charge is an unenforceable penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss.

But it states:
"However, the fact that you do not think you should have to pay the parking charge ... not valid grounds of appeal."
Somewhat laughable when it is invalid to claim that you don't think you should have to pay. If you thought you had to pay, why on earth would you be appealing?!

As someone has already said, very amateurish.

patman99

I've contacted my MP (Priti Patel) to ask her if it is legal for an organisation, company or individual to provide false information with the intention of influencing a law.

I await her reply.