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How many holidays can you CARRY Forward, to the following year?
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Any employer thinking of going along with what Jamie says should ensure they have a very good grievance procedure, because they're going to need it ...
Any employee who has an employer NOT giving a minimum of 5.6 weeks holiday each year (obviously pro rata if you're not doing a five day week), please point your employer to businesslink, ACAS, directgov etc etc etc.Signature removed for peace of mind0 -
Jamie_Carter wrote: »To start with there is no 5.6 weeks minimum.
Most jobs give 4 weeks, plus bank holidays. But some give less than that.
Secondly So it is up to the employer, and is not a right.
Jamie - I'm sure all this bravado works in bars and rest rooms; but when someone is asking about employment matters on here, it's usually because they need to know about the legal rights and entitlements. Not about your opinion.
As quoted several times, people are allowed to carry over a maximum of 1.6 weeks, if agreed with the employer. And the minimum leave entitlement is 5.6 weeks. It is mentioned, quoted and referred to, with links - almost on a daily basis.
That's the law. You know, the thing that is legal and - well - the law. If you don't understand the basics, perhaps you should step away from the Employment Board on MSE. As your complete lack of understanding could get people who do not recognise your 'advice' into serious trouble at work. You know - work - that thing that provides people with income and a roof over their head.If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.0 -
Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »Jamie - I'm sure all this bravado works in bars and rest rooms; but when someone is asking about employment matters on here, it's usually because they need to know about the legal rights and entitlements. Not about your opinion.
As quoted several times, people are allowed to carry over a maximum of 1.6 weeks, if agreed with the employer. And the minimum leave entitlement is 5.6 weeks. It is mentioned, quoted and referred to, with links - almost on a daily basis.
That's the law. You know, the thing that is legal and - well - the law. If you don't understand the basics, perhaps you should step away from the Employment Board on MSE. As your complete lack of understanding could get people who do not recognise your 'advice' into serious trouble at work. You know - work - that thing that provides people with income and a roof over their head.
I think you need to read up on employment law!0 -
Jamie_Carter wrote: »I think you need to read up on employment law!
In what context Jamie?
I'll be back in the morning so you have all night to find government links to inform us of the employment law that supports your arguments. Bearing in mind you have disagreed with all the links to 'actual' law; it will be interesting to see where you are getting your information from.
Note, I do not want links that take me into your head. Thanks.If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.0 -
Jamie_Carter wrote: »No. Most jobs give 4 weeks plus bank holidays.
How many days are 4 weeks plus bank holidays then??
4 weeks for a full time worker PLUS wait for it..................EIGHT (that will be 8 for the simple people) bank holidays
8 = 5 days + 3
5 days is a week (add that to the 4 weeks to make 5 weeks) and then the 3 remaining days are 0.6 of a week as one day is equal to 0.2 of a week
So, that's 5.6 weeks FACT!0 -
Jamie_Carter wrote: »To start with there is no 5.6 weeks minimum.
Most jobs give 4 weeks, plus bank holidays. But some give less than that.
Secondly So it is up to the employer, and is not a right.
Some who give you less than that are doing so as maybe you are part time but if you are full time you have to have 5.6 weeks holiday which are 20 days plus 8 bank holidays!
Other than that they are breaking the law0 -
MissSarah1972 wrote: »Some who give you less than that are doing so as maybe you are part time but if you are full time you have to have 5.6 weeks holiday which are 20 days plus 8 bank holidays!
Other than that they are breaking the law
Sorry I think there was a misunderstanding. I have never regarded bank holidays as annual leave. I only regarded annual leave as days that you can choose when to take. But obviously you can't with bank holidays.
But as for the 1.6 weeks to carry over. As I have said previously it is up to your employer, and isn't a legal right. And an employer can choose to allow you to carry more over.0 -
Jamie_Carter wrote: »Sorry I think there was a misunderstanding. I have never regarded bank holidays as annual leave. I only regarded annual leave as days that you can choose when to take. But obviously you can't with bank holidays.
But as for the 1.6 weeks to carry over. As I have said previously it is up to your employer, and isn't a legal right. And an employer can choose to allow you to carry more over.
You are the one who said it wasn't 5.6 weeks holiday and we have quoted from the legal sites online here to which you still said we were wrong0 -
Jamie_Carter wrote: »Sorry I think there was a misunderstanding. I have never regarded bank holidays as annual leave. I only regarded annual leave as days that you can choose when to take. But obviously you can't with bank holidays.
But as for the 1.6 weeks to carry over. As I have said previously it is up to your employer, and isn't a legal right. And an employer can choose to allow you to carry more over.
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Carrying over holidays
You do not have an automatic right to carry leave over. Of your 5.6 weeks entitlement, you must take the first four weeks of the leave, in the year that it is allocated. You can only carry forward the additional 1.6 weeks' leave if it remains untaken, with your employers permission or if it allowed by your employment contract.
If you have a leave entitlement more generous then the statutory minimum, your employer may allow you to carry over any of this additional entitlement if it remains untaken. However, this should be set out in your contract of employment.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_1719450 -
Jamie_Carter wrote: »Where on earth did you get that from???
To start with there is no law saying that you should get 5.6 weeks. And there certainly isn't one saying that you can only carry over 1.6 weeks. What you carry over is up to your employer.
The employment acts cover this in some detail.
5.6 weeks statutory minimum from April 2009( was 4.8 from Oct 2007)
equivilent to 28 days for a full timer of 5 or more days.
can include the Bank holidays(no statutory right to those particular days).
4 weeks must be taken 1.6 weeks can be carried over for a max of one year. Cannot be paid in lieu must be taken or carried over.
Loads of references on line to support this, time you brought yourself upto date.
here is thactual cat that changed the holidays to 5.6 in April 2009
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2007/2079/contents/made
Needs to be read in conjuction with the original act and other amendments0
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