Life with a dog agressive dog...

Wellyboots6

Tyson has lent his muzzle to one of his friends at the moment, but when I get it back I will post a picture of his 'vajazzled muzzle'!

It was my attempt at shaming him in to behaving!

He does not suit sparkle, at all...

gettingready

Hardupandfedup wrote: »

Im sorry but if you know she is likely to attack other dogs and you dont muzzle her you are being iresponsible.


saying she cant get to another dog because of the way you hold her is dangerous, what happens if she pulls you over or a dog runs out unexpectedly?

She on lead, short lead and I hold both lead and collar - she has no way of hurting any dog this way. She would be more able to hurt a dog when running off the l;ead with a muzzle on.

I am not irresponsible. People who let their dogs run off towards other dogs who are on a lead (for whatever reason) - THEY are irresponsible.

My dog is never in a position to hurt another dog. I make sure of that.

gettingready

krlyr wrote: »

Good point re. thyroid - though bear in mind that a TSH test alone may not be conclusive, you need as comprehensive a test as possible. T4, T3, free T4 and free T3 if possible, as well as TgAA. If you get in contact with Dr Jean Dodds in the USA, she was fab at taking a look at a scan of Kiki's results and interpreting them for me - for no charge (it was just a brief interpretation but helpful anyway)

Thanks for that - came home early and booked Zara for the vets at 3.30, will ask them to do all those tests.

Anything else? Pls let me know if possible so will get the vet do all of those today when I take her.

Found a lump on the back of the leg she had operation on, possibly one of those cysts that she had - may have grown and burst below the skin. Maybe this is causing her discomfort?

Will get the vet check her leg for like post op stretching etc, also the lump and get the tests done.

Thanks a lot.

gettingready

jumpedtheshark wrote: »

That said, she also loves some dogs - I mean, full-on-loud-whining-desperate-to-say-hello-loves! - so it's not quite the same.

It is the same, Zara has "friends" like that too... sigh....

elliesmemory1

gettingready wrote: »

She on lead, short lead and I hold both lead and collar - she has no way of hurting any dog this way. She would be more able to hurt a dog when running off the l;ead with a muzzle on.

I am not irresponsible. People who let their dogs run off towards other dogs who are on a lead (for whatever reason) - THEY are irresponsible.

My dog is never in a position to hurt another dog. I make sure of that.

Sorry, but I stand by what I said. I have had Gsds for over 15 years and work with dogs, you can not be sure your dog wont get free. If shes being aggressive she should be muzzled. It could save her life.

krlyr

Mine just did a full blood panel - so would pick up anything like kidney or liver issues, heart problems, potential signs of cancers etc. really, I just asked for a 'behaviour' panel and the vet said they would do the best one the lab offered, plus the additional thyroid tests (because the standard panel only does TSH - this isn't always accurate as dogs only make about 60% of thyroid hormones in the same way as humans, plus dogs can be making the right amount of hormones but not converting them for use too, which is why the other results are important)

http://www.grr-tx.com/resources/thyroid_problems.pdf may be worth reading/printing out as it's detailed but not overly long - the PDF relates to Golden Retrievers but the issue isn't breed specific. Dr Jean Dodds does believe that breed plays a part in ideal thyroid ranges though - so a value that may be within range for a Chihuahua might be out of range for a GSD. I sent a scan of Kiki's results to her as well as info on her breeds, age, etc. and Dr Dodds came back telling me what she'd expect Kiki's ideal ranges to be. Funnily enough, we had a checkup test done recetly and these are nearly exactly what Kiki's levels are on the medication - Dr Dodds has a personal interest in thyroid issues and has done years and years of research so knows her stuff.

If you plan to have the tests done tonight it may be worth checking whether she needs to be fasted first. I wasn't told that it was best and and given her a small dinner an hour before - which possibly could have elevated some of the results (though dogs on a raw diet often have elevated levels for some results too so I took that into account when looking at the results)

krlyr

Here were Kiki's results



Most of the 'high' results are things that tend to flag up as high in raw-fed dogs so my vet wasn't worried about them. The high cholesterol was interesting - it could have been a result of a non-fasting sample but as per the GR PDF, high cholesterol is also a symptom of hypothyroidism and often is something that would warrant a full thyroid panel for a dog that had just had a basic panel done.
Her TgAA came back negative (so no autoimmune thyroid issue) but the free T4 came back at 12.8 - low end of the range and Dr Dodds felt that the T4, free T4 and TSH results didn't look quite right.

It can be worth getting a copy of the results and looking into them yourself - my normal vet went off sick just as the results came back so his covering vet took a glance and signed them off as within range. It was only when I asked for a copy and looked into it (and emailed Dr Dodds) that I went back and discussed the option of treating for borderline hypothyroid - glad I was persistant as she is so much better now, and the vet agrees. He even thinks she could go on a slightly higher dose if needed but we're just seeing how things go at the mo.

gettingready

Just spoke to Argos, we still have nearly £1300 to "play with" in this insurance year, (till 28th October when the reneval comes) so this is good news.

Printer died on me (just another thing to go wrong) so will write donw whatever is being recommended as far as test are concerned.

I have absolutely no money till the 28th (payday) so will have to ask the vets to do direct claim to insurance. If the bill comes to over £250 they will, if under.. they won't and will have to work something out

Got a tenner for myself to the end the month, life sucks right now so thanks for the insurance and the 7k per year cover.

Thanks again.

BTW - I will get a muzzle for her, I never said I will not. I said I will not have her muzzled AND on a lead at the same time.

Did not see them black though, only beige - they do them black? Link anyone?

Really stressed now.. before the vet

gettingready

krlyl - trying to write it down so:

full blood panel
full behaviour panel
T4
T3
Free T3
Free T4
Tg AA

Is that all? What is the difference between T3 and free T3?

Do any of them require fasting?

Thanks a lot

gettingready

Oh dear.. Just now my dog walker came, with her chuwawa (spelling????) and with another dog (her dog's daughter, grown up).

Zara was absolutely over the moon with bot dogs (shock to me), dog walker says she is fine while with her (shock) so it must be me...

Zara has NEVER allowed ANY dog into the flat and those 2 walked in as if the own the place.....


(banging my head against the wall now - so it is me......)

She went out with the dog walker and the 2 little dogs, the dog walker friend with a little girl and the dog walker's little boy were in the car - Z|ara jumped in and off they went....

sighhhh