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Indy: Economic circumstance is forcing grown adults to live like juveniles

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  • Does the article say "baby boomer"?

    I can only imagine that it does considering the scoffing so far on this thread.

    It points out that baby boomers are better off than their adult children, at the end. Hence the scorn and derision, from the baby boomers.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    It points out that baby boomers are better off than their adult children, at the end. Hence the scorn and derision, from the baby boomers.

    Sounds like pure jealousy to me, scorn and derision just for being better off. Pathetic.

    Guess that just moaning is easier than getting out and improving your situation though.
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    There are many jobs that are overseen by a professional body and / or need a university degree.

    Of the ones you presumably don't think 'count', I can name:
    • HR
    • Marketing
    • Journalism
    • Plumbing and heating
    • Building
    • Electrical work
    • LIbraries
    • Hair dressing
    • Teaching
    • Early years care
    • Administration
    • Computing
    • Nursing
    • Psychologist
    • Counsellor
    • Mental health worker
    • Speech therapist
    All of these professions, or whatever you want to call them, are populated by people who had to do some form of higher level study and training to get into them, and most likely have to do ongoing CPD.

    A higher level of study to be an administrator or a librarian? OK then....
  • I often think my parents and their friends who live nearby would be a good little microeconomy to examine.

    They bought 4-5 bed houses on a new-build estate in the mid-late 1980s (so proper sized houses with real gardens, good driveways, etc) and either brought young children or had babies there. Fast-forward 25 years, and most of them are..... still there! Utilising less than half of the 4/5 beds in their properties, turning what was an area full of young families into a retirement community.

    When I was a kid, down my parent's street alone there were always enough of us kids for a 5-a-side match. When I visited recently, the only activity was the now-retired folk mowing their lawns.

    I expect this is replicated all over the country. There's a bottleneck in the housing market where decent, good-sized, well-built family homes simply don't come available, and so the few that do attract an enormous premium.

    I don't blame anyone for it, in fact my Dad had a good point - why move? Where could they down-size to whilst keeping well-proportioned rooms and gardens, not to mention having to pay a few grand moving costs, and stamp duty for the privilege of a new purchase.

    But equally this is the same man who was happy to take advantage of a quality new-build estate in the 1980s, who now opposes further development projects in the area.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    It points out that baby boomers are better off than their adult children, at the end.

    Not even worthy of being used as toilet paper then. Obviously if it says that, it's written by some spotty little kid with a complex.
  • FTBFun wrote: »
    A higher level of study to be an administrator or a librarian? OK then....

    Yes, you need a bachelors degree and then a PG degree to become a librarian.
  • ILW wrote: »
    Sounds like pure jealousy to me, scorn and derision just for being better off. Pathetic.

    Guess that just moaning is easier than getting out and improving your situation though.

    It's a sign of the times, ILW
    The generation starting off their career now are the ones who have been taught at school they were 'special', who were not allowed to be disciplined by the teacher as it violated their 'rights', who were driven around in 4x4 SUV's with a "princess on board" sticker on it, who were given it all without ever learning the value of money.
    The idea of having to do an effort to achieve a result is alien to them.

    Not wishing to generalise, luckily, there are exceptions.
    These exceptions will be the ones flourishing in the next generation. The losers will spend the day posting whine stories from the Indy or HPC on an internet forum. :)
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    It's a sign of the times, ILW
    The generation starting off their career now are the ones who have been taught at school they were 'special', who were not allowed to be disciplined by the teacher as it violated their 'rights', who were driven around in 4x4 SUV's with a "princess on board" sticker on it, who were given it all without ever learning the value of money.
    The idea of having to do an effort to achieve a result is alien to them.

    I wonder who drummed these idealogies into them?
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    How about boomers then?

    Yep it wasn't always a bed of roses back then ;)

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQeWavP4PRLzPRQFnCK9uA66H92zcAqZ_EKZHOY9Kis6MPiApDj0A&t=1
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    Yes, you need a bachelors degree and then a PG degree to become a librarian.

    This is ridiculous if it's true - my mum was a librarian in the 1980s/early 1990s and she left school at 16 with a bunch of CSEs to her name...
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