How much should I expect to pay?

Phil3822

Hi all, wanting to have my kitchen removed, wall tiles removed and a new kitchen installing with new wall tiles and floor tiles. Room is 12ft x 7ft and currently has 7 units. 3 double, 2 single and 2 double wall. I would expect to have the same installed again in same layout. I would be happy with basic laminate worktop which is two lengths and a little bit totalling 3 meters. The worktop is just straight lenghts. I would also be happy with a pretty basic kitchen. Benchmarx or Howdens type thing.

What should I be expecting to pay labour and all supplies.

I have some trades people coming round over the next 3 weeks but I am interested in peoples thoughts and views. Live in East Anglia.

dvdrdl

£80-100 a day i reckon (per man of course)

James_Lahey

You might find someone who could do much of the work for £80-£100 per day but be wary they finish in a reasonable time!

Skilled and more expensive people you will/may need -
Plumber for water/gas hookups (IME often late by hours or days, factor in time wastage by other trades.)
Electrician - not sure on how much they'll need to do but I hear non trained kitchen fitters are now limited.)
Joiner - at least for masons mitres (worktop joins.) Best recommendation is to pay this guy for all carpentry work + a premium to deal/communicate with other trades mentioned, you'll get a better job and less surprises down the line.

Alternatively a well recommended company who have all people on staff also works well albeit probably more costly.

Also later maybe a tiler if necessary although a lot of kitchen tiling can be a DIY job if you have the aptitude.

Ni idea of howden pricing or that of other trades, for kitchen fitter/joiner in a small kitchen I'll guess at £500 (for one worktop joint +£40 per additional) including a bit extra to "project manage" (based on an easy 4 days work.) Might be higher where you live.

southcoastrgi

dvdrdl wrote: »

£80-100 a day i reckon (per man of course)

James_Lahey wrote: »

You might find someone who could do much of the work for £80-£100 per day but be wary they finish in a reasonable time!

Skilled and more expensive people you will/may need -
Plumber for water/gas hookups (IME often late by hours or days, factor in time wastage by other trades.)
Electrician - not sure on how much they'll need to do but I hear non trained kitchen fitters are now limited.)
Joiner - at least for masons mitres (worktop joins.) Best recommendation is to pay this guy for all carpentry work + a premium to deal/communicate with other trades mentioned, you'll get a better job and less surprises down the line.

Alternatively a well recommended company who have all people on staff also works well albeit probably more costly.

Also later maybe a tiler if necessary although a lot of kitchen tiling can be a DIY job if you have the aptitude.

Ni idea of howden pricing or that of other trades, for kitchen fitter/joiner in a small kitchen I'll guess at £500 (for one worktop joint +£40 per additional) including a bit extra to "project manage" (based on an easy 4 days work.) Might be higher where you live.

are you two living in the stone age ? you couldn't get a labourer for those rates let alone a kitchen fitter/plumber/electrician etc

James_Lahey

I'd fit a small kitchen at £125 per day and be pretty confidant I'd be done easily by day 4 - other trades pending. No idea what plumbers/sparkies would charge but probably similar price just for the couple of hours you need them.

Small kitchen, Simple fit, basic units, easy worktops ,2 wall units and everything supplied. Only potential problem is being let down by delivery or other trades.

day 1` base units in leveled and fitted (1hr)
brackets for 2 wall untis (15mins)
worktops cut routed edged and masons miters done (dry)
day 2 plumber fits sink/hob - hang wall units, end panels, cornice, some doors, bolt up wtops after plumber is gone.
day 3 last doors on, noise caps/softclose, bins/peripherals, snagging

In theory 3 non rushed days at work for £500 sound okay to me - little spare to allow for problems + later snag visit (as self employed sole trader with low overheads.)

James_Lahey

Fwiw my first post said you might find someone for £80-£100 to do basic work mainly to avoid offence. At that price it is highly unlikely you will get anyone good or even competent - although from experience they do exist (until they learn they are worth a lot more.)

southcoastrgi

if that works for you then thats fine but IMO you are underselling yourself & you are way too cheap

Phil3822

Sparky's round my way charge around £150 per day labour. Not sure about other trades.

Anyway, got someone coming out this morning to have a look. He says however he wants Howdens to do the design part and supply, he will fit etc. I assume this is normal although I thought the fitter would have looked at design based upon there experience etc.

I want existing tiles to be removed as dont fancy doing that myself. I can remove the kitchen myself unless its cheap for them to do it.

I have no gas, and dont see any electrics need moving. Just new light fittings put in, maybe an extractor fan. Also might want sink moving because its in a weird place at the moment. Thanks for the comments so far.

rxbren

most trades will be around £150 a day
tilers mostly charge around £30 m2 labour
if your able to, your better off hiring a skip and removing the old kitchen- cap off your sink water supply or if you dont feel confident enough remove everything bar the kitchen sink (leave it in place remove all the other units and cut the worktop down to the sink.
id recommend getting a design done this will save on future arguments/disputes as you will both know exactly how the finished kitchen will look and give you an itemised list/bill for the units and all extras.
Extractor fan depends on placement but shouldnt be too much off a problem same as the sink if its not moving far-600mm either way it wont be much hassle as all pipework- cold and hot water feeds and the soil pipe will be easily worked with

tlh858

James_Lahey wrote: »

I'd fit a small kitchen at £125 per day

That is ridiculously low. You have either no overheads at all, or more likely, have grossly miscalculated what they actually are.

joinaman

Any of you lot want any work in Yorkshire??
Always need cheap workers, makes more profit for me
I have vans, machine shop, offices and would not get out of bed for less than £200/250 a day,and this applies to most of my subbies, only one cheaper are plasterer and decorator, even the labourers want £150 plus
Why would you work so cheap? I assume you are not fully skilled, have no overheads, pay no tax/vat, and give no thought to sick pay, holiday pay, insurances, pensions, etc, etc, that real companies do
If I built an extension, it is built to last anything up to 100 years, kitchens/bathrooms 50 years ( they are usually replaced due to fashion rather than failed
What else can you buy with these lifespans?

rant over:eek: