Eviction in 7 days

johnbusby

I haven't bothered to read the last 7 pages as I have better things to do with my time but I was simply disagreeing with the highly questionable assertion that just because 2 things are wrong people should feel equally aggrieved about each of them

aaronb74

sturman wrote:

At end of contract in order to delay proceedings i issued a notice to leave[my mistake]as i was certain that completion would take place.

What a hypocrite!! You have blasted your LL for being a one-off amateur and not considering his tenants might overstay their (self-imposed) welcome, yet you assumed that everything would be peachy with the house you're buying and that it would all be sorted on time.

If you're a landlord with a presumably considerable portfolio, why are you renting from someone else in the first place?

As you have a "one-off" LL, consider why is he is a LL in the first place. I originally became a LL because I unexpectedly had to move across the country for work and couldn't sell my home so soon after buying without incurring a huge loss. I relied on tenants to cover the mortgage on the place whilst I had to rent elsewhere. The dead time whilst I was fixing the place up after the first (nightmare) tenants cost me a lot of money in lost mortgage payments. It was not just a case of less profit to feed my bulging bank account. At times the property was empty for two months. Who's to say the LL can afford to have his house sat empty, costing him hundreds of pounds? He might need to get someone in asap in order to be able to continue to pay the mortgage.

The LA being pushy over not wanting to lose commission doesn't wash with me. Waiting another month until you'd actually moved out to look for a new tenant wouldn't impact them very much financially. As above though, it may impact your LL significantly.

As for the gas safety cert issue, I agree it's wrong that he hasn't got one. However, it sounds like you're now just clutching at straws in an attempt to demonise the LL and bring people round to your selfish, arrogant way of thinking. Ultimately, you said you'd leave. Now you're refusing based on some selfish sense of entitlement and the refusal to accept any kind of responsibility for your actions, which will now have a knock on effect on the LL AND the future tenants.

Grow up, man up and live up to your responsibilities and honour your decision to move out!!

LannieDuck

Sturman: I've done something morally dubious. But that's ok, right?

MSErs: No, it's morally dubious.

Sturman: Waaaaah. Wah wah wah.

MSErs: It's still morally dubious.

Sturman: Wait... but the LL did something dangerous... so that means my behaviour was acceptable, right?

MSErs: The LL shouldn't have done the dangerous thing. But your behaviour was still morally dubious.

Sturman: Waaaaah. Wah wah wah.

sturman

aaronb74 wrote: »

What a hypocrite!! You have blasted your LL for being a one-off amateur and not considering his tenants might overstay their (self-imposed) welcome, yet you assumed that everything would be peachy with the house you're buying and that it would all be sorted on time.

If you're a landlord with a presumably considerable portfolio, why are you renting from someone else in the first place?

As you have a "one-off" LL, consider why is he is a LL in the first place. I originally became a LL because I unexpectedly had to move across the country for work and couldn't sell my home so soon after buying without incurring a huge loss. I relied on tenants to cover the mortgage on the place whilst I had to rent elsewhere. The dead time whilst I was fixing the place up after the first (nightmare) tenants cost me a lot of money in lost mortgage payments. It was not just a case of less profit to feed my bulging bank account. At times the property was empty for two months. Who's to say the LL can afford to have his house sat empty, costing him hundreds of pounds? He might need to get someone in asap in order to be able to continue to pay the mortgage.

The LA being pushy over not wanting to lose commission doesn't wash with me. Waiting another month until you'd actually moved out to look for a new tenant wouldn't impact them very much financially. As above though, it may impact your LL significantly.

As for the gas safety cert issue, I agree it's wrong that he hasn't got one. However, it sounds like you're now just clutching at straws in an attempt to demonise the LL and bring people round to your selfish, arrogant way of thinking. Ultimately, you said you'd leave. Now you're refusing based on some selfish sense of entitlement and the refusal to accept any kind of responsibility for your actions, which will now have a knock on effect on the LL AND the future tenants.

Grow up, man up and live up to your responsibilities and honour your decision to move out!!

Now youre exactly the type of person i'm refering to. Youre advice on this forum is neither impartial or helpful to a struggling tennant.Its somewhere you just come to vent your frustrations...Its business my friend and you shouldnt be in it.

sturman

LannieDuck wrote: »

Sturman: I've done something morally dubious. But that's ok, right?

MSErs: No, it's morally dubious.

Sturman: Waaaaah. Wah wah wah.

MSErs: It's still morally dubious.

Sturman: Wait... but the LL did something dangerous... so that means my behaviour was acceptable, right?

MSErs: The LL shouldn't have done the dangerous thing. But your behaviour was still morally dubious.

Sturman: Waaaaah. Wah wah wah.

Its the waaaaah waaaah bit thats confusing you,I understand. When things get a little different and confusing and not black and white,thats the sound you'll hear.

sturman

aaronb74 wrote: »

What a hypocrite!! You have blasted your LL for being a one-off amateur and not considering his tenants might overstay their (self-imposed) welcome, yet you assumed that everything would be peachy with the house you're buying and that it would all be sorted on time.

If you're a landlord with a presumably considerable portfolio, why are you renting from someone else in the first place?

As you have a "one-off" LL, consider why is he is a LL in the first place. I originally became a LL because I unexpectedly had to move across the country for work and couldn't sell my home so soon after buying without incurring a huge loss. I relied on tenants to cover the mortgage on the place whilst I had to rent elsewhere. The dead time whilst I was fixing the place up after the first (nightmare) tenants cost me a lot of money in lost mortgage payments. It was not just a case of less profit to feed my bulging bank account. At times the property was empty for two months. Who's to say the LL can afford to have his house sat empty, costing him hundreds of pounds? He might need to get someone in asap in order to be able to continue to pay the mortgage.

The LA being pushy over not wanting to lose commission doesn't wash with me. Waiting another month until you'd actually moved out to look for a new tenant wouldn't impact them very much financially. As above though, it may impact your LL significantly.

As for the gas safety cert issue, I agree it's wrong that he hasn't got one. However, it sounds like you're now just clutching at straws in an attempt to demonise the LL and bring people round to your selfish, arrogant way of thinking. Ultimately, you said you'd leave. Now you're refusing based on some selfish sense of entitlement and the refusal to accept any kind of responsibility for your actions, which will now have a knock on effect on the LL AND the future tenants.

Grow up, man up and live up to your responsibilities and honour your decision to move out!!

And just like you i live in one place and invest in another....crazy huh

melysion

You can can try and justify your selfish actions as much as you like but the bottom line is you have caused a lot of stress and possibly even homelessness to other people (the tenants you have shafted by not moving out when you said you would).

You, sir, have behaved disgustingly. I cant wait for Karma to catch up with you.

jamie11

johnbusby wrote: »

But why should there be equal outrage. It is criminal to both dodge taxes and murder a child. Both are wrong yet one will rightly provoke a stronger feeling in outrage. I dont see your point......

That's true, one is a heinous crime, according to the government, the other is just murdering a child.

sturman

sten_super wrote: »

On the gas certificate, I agree entirely with you - and I suspect that if you'd started a thread asking what to do as your landlord hadn't provided a valid gas certificate you would have had a lot of sympathy and assistance.

On the moving dates - that's a two way street, and simply reflects the current legislation at the end of an AST. In fact at the moment it slightly favours tenants, who are required to only give one month's notice before moving out 'when not convenient', compared to a landlord that has to give two months.

In terms of correspondence - there are ways and means (which are explained to new posters on a regular basis) of ensuring that the landlord receives communications from you. He does not have to agree to any extension of lets beyond the AST, and while you may not like this it is unfortunately the state of the legislation.

Your view of the forum is entirely inconsistent with my experiences over the last couple of months of using it, and seems to be based much more upon the fact that you didn't like the nature of the replies that you received rather than a wider experience of the forum.

Well done..I think this is one of the few thoughtful posts here. I agree that its unfortunate about the current legislation but i'm afraid like me many people will feel that it is weighted to much in the LL favour regarding end of tennancy. Properties being vacant at the end of tennancy before marketing should be the norm. However reading through most of the posts on here would not help a struggling tennant so i think any advice should come with a caution.Thankfully i have resolved my issue but i wouldnt like to have been desperate....

Jellybean_Jo

Isn't this all just getting really silly now? What is the point of this thread anymore? Nobody is helping anybody at this stage, and all that's happening is people are just winding other people up and it's getting nasty (on both sides).
Whether people agree or disagree with sturman on this, he's not going to change his mind, that's pretty clear, so it's just going round in circles. All this thread will do is put off new posters on these boards, which I'm pretty sure is something none of us want to do.