Choice of intelligent switches ?

spgsc531

Cardew wrote: »

John,
This was covered in an earlier post.

Most of the 'better off' that collect FIT are in houses that they own, and I would suspect that a low percentage would have all electric heating. The majority will have gas/oil central heating and of course the levy is only on electricity consumption.

Not so the 'less well off' in rented accomodation/flats where electric heating is commonplace.

I don't have any figures, but I suspect that the FIT levy impacts to a far greater degree on the poorer in our society.

Nor do you have any facts, do you ever? Suspecting this or that is meaningless noise.

The_Green_Man_2

EricMears wrote: »

Wow ! I've just realised that my FIT payments will come into the class of "up to a million pounds" :T

Headline: Rich Fit recipients get richer, poor get poorer.

The_Green_Man_2

Shall we have a discussion about the ethics of FiT payments?

Dave_Fowler

It's been one of those days today when an intelligent switch has come to the fore. The sun has been out one minute and then quite heavy cloud. Almost impossible to manually turn on and off any electrical appliance to use the surplus power. Thankfully a power tracking switch such as the Immersun can cope very well with these varying conditions.

Dave F

zeupater

Cardew wrote: »

John,
This was covered in an earlier post.

Most of the 'better off' that collect FIT are in houses that they own, and I would suspect that a low percentage would have all electric heating. The majority will have gas/oil central heating and of course the levy is only on electricity consumption.

Not so the 'less well off' in rented accomodation/flats where electric heating is commonplace.

I don't have any figures, but I suspect that the FIT levy impacts to a far greater degree on the poorer in our society.

Hi Cardew

Summary of what you need to support (or not) the above is contained in this report .... ( https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/88370/EHS_Headline_Report_2011-2012.pdf )
... it's no use referencing the particular sections as the report is already in summary format and should be considered 'in the whole', however, after reading & digesting the information it is pretty obvious that the difference between the various forms of tenure are not as great as some would have us believe ... it's pretty good to see information in the 'raw' before politics has had it's chance to be overtly selective and effectively spin the 'message' ....

Anyway, it's good reading if you're interested in the 'truth', whatever that is in a government report ....

HTH
Z

Martyn1981

zeupater wrote: »

Hi

Again, misinformation ....

As for 'tag-teaming' .... :rotfl: ..... all I can see is reasoned discussion with supporting evidence set against unsupported & generally irrational obstinacy .... what I have gathered though through the recent exchanges is the main identity of the alter-ego ....

HTH
Z

I've no idea who the alter ego is, but I have noticed that as well as posting misinformation (for example):

The_Green_Man wrote: »

It might be that Germany are generating several megawatts using solar, but if that power costs 10 times as much as other technologies then what is the point?

I wonder what that 1/10 cost technology on offer is, and if Germany realises they can only generate several megawatts?

He (or she) just like Cardew, has never said whether they support renewables (and/or low carbon generation). I guess it's so easy to criticise when you haven't got to face up to reality, and our rising generation costs.

Perhaps one or both, could suggest a future generation scenario that doesn't involve higher bills/subsidies for renewables and/or nuclear and/or CCS?

Mart.

Cardew

zeupater wrote: »

Hi Cardew

Summary of what you need to support (or not) the above is contained in this report .... ( https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/88370/EHS_Headline_Report_2011-2012.pdf )
... it's no use referencing the particular sections as the report is already in summary format and should be considered 'in the whole', however, after reading & digesting the information it is pretty obvious that the difference between the various forms of tenure are not as great as some would have us believe ... it's pretty good to see information in the 'raw' before politics has had it's chance to be overtly selective and effectively spin the 'message' ....

Anyway, it's good reading if you're interested in the 'truth', whatever that is in a government report ....

HTH
Z

Z

Thanks for that link. Would you not agree that this quote and Annex table 9 clearly support the point I made above?

2.8


In
2011, 93% of owner occupied dwellings had central heating systems, compared with 88% of social and 81% of private rented dwellings, Annex Table 9. This is partly because the rented sectors Housing stock contain a much higher proportion of flats, which are more likely than houses to have storage heaters.

The formatting in Annex table 9 doesn't lend itself to cutting and pasting.

However in owner occupied properties 4.4% had storage heating and 2.6% had fixed room/portable heaters.

The figures for Private rented were 12.9% and 5.8% respectively and for Private sector 6.2% and 3.3%

The storage heating figures for Local Authority were 7.5%; for Housing Association 13.5% and Social sector 10.7%.

Martyn1981

Cardew wrote: »

Z

Thanks for that link. Would you not agree that this quote and Annex table 9 clearly support the point I made above?

Cardew wrote: »

John,

Not so the 'less well off' in rented accomodation/flats where electric heating is commonplace.

However in owner occupied properties 4.4% had storage heating and 2.6% had fixed room/portable heaters.

The figures for Private rented were 12.9% and 5.8% respectively and for Private sector 6.2% and 3.3%

The storage heating figures for Local Authority were 7.5%; for Housing Association 13.5% and Social sector 10.7%.

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So it would appear that electric heating is anything but commonplace, be it private sector, or social sector.

Well spotted. :T

Mart.

[Deleted User]

Well gone and done it...

The intelligent switch has been ordered

Not long now till lots of free pv hot water, fingers crossed

Should be a quick install so will report back soon...

[Deleted User]

Is it ok to have two CT clamps on the incoming mains supply? Personally I don't see why not but perhaps, with experience, someone has found different?

Cheers