Can employee be sacked for being a few minutes late?

sniggings

1940sGal wrote: »

I'm sorry, but why exactly are people on here 'a bunch of saddos'?

People like me sitting on a forum with nothing better to do.

anyone you know like that

To be fair I did have second thoughts and reposted that post with saddos changed to people but I deleted the wrong post

garynuman

An interesting post this. Thought I would add my opinion.

I think the consensus is that you COULD sack the employee if you wanted to do so.

But as others have mentioned, if he is an asset to the company, you may be reluctant to let him go.

I would probably meet with him in private and explain that his time-keeping has been raised as a serious disciplinary issue by senior management and is being investigated.

He will most likely offer an explanation for his tardiness or, if he has no rebuttal he will "take it on the chin" as he has been caught.

After consideration, if you decide he is to be kept on, his attendance will probably improve in the short to mid-term and I would hope that he's learned his lesson.

Best of luck with this.

Gaz

1940sGal

sniggings wrote: »

People like me sitting on a forum with nothing better to do.

anyone you know like that

To be fair I did have second thoughts and reposted that post with saddos changed to people but I deleted the wrong post

:rotfl: I don't know what you mean

But deleting the wrong post does sound like something i'd do

Now we best leave it at that before someone tells me off for going off topic

anamenottaken

sniggings wrote: »

Not so important that the employer in this case had to be told of this.

A timesheet in many places is not used for payroll but only there because it is law to have one, for the fire service etc

I timesheet is not a clocking in machine so it would be wrong to compare them, they can have different purposes.

( even tho I compared them in an earlier post )

What law?

H&S in relation to fire instructions could lead to a workplace rule, but not a law, for a timesheet. There isn't a need to record times for that, just a simple tick sheet would do.

sniggings

anamenottaken wrote: »

What law?

H&S in relation to fire instructions could lead to a workplace rule, but not a law, for a timesheet. There isn't a need to record times for that, just a simple tick sheet would do.

thats what I mean most timesheets are mainly only there to act as a signing in/out sheet, the times have very little use.

In this case the timesheet might be used for payroll but even then it's at worse a warning.

Fire_Fox

Arriving late could be an accident, leaving early was deliberate. This has occurred enough times for colleagues to complain. If you have personal problems that mean you need to arrive late and/ or leave early you speak to your boss, you don't deliberately falsify your timesheets. Colleagues are p1ssed off enough to complain to management instead of speaking to the employee, so he is not even a valued member of the team. Five years getting away with taking the mickey more like.

SandC

sniggings wrote: »

Yes I understood that but the point is the same, I think you are over stating the point.

It reminds me of the USA who now seems to accuse it's own citizens of being a terrorist at the drop of a hat.

As said before, yes the timesheet should have been filled in correctly but lets keep this in perspective, throwing terms around such as " paramount importance" tends to not help to do that.

You are the one who brought up some establishments having time sheets 'by law' which is the only reason I said it would be of paramount importance. Not even sure there is a 'law' for any workplace to have timesheets to be honest.

getmore4less

SandC wrote: »

You are the one who brought up some establishments having time sheets 'by law' which is the only reason I said it would be of paramount importance. Not even sure there is a 'law' for any workplace to have timesheets to be honest.

It depend on how you interprit the WTD requirements to not exceed hours.

liney

sniggings wrote: »

sorry I'm posting a lot here, I hate daytime TV

Anyone know the rules on CCTV, I was under the impression that it could not be used to check on stuff sach as lateness etc?

I know when at my work place we had cameras fitted there were a lot of rules relating to them, or at least that is what the word around the office was. They could not be on all the time and could only be used for a limited range of reasons? generally watching the staff was not allowed.?

Interested to know if anyone knows.

Yes CCTV can be used to monitor staff - http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/detail?itemId=1074461555&type=RESOURCES

This instance would be covered by:

*ensure compliance with the law or an internal employment policy, eg on email and internet usage

**confirm any fraudulent, criminal or otherwise illegal or undesirable conduct by your staff that you suspect

Staff must be informed they will be monitored, but the company does have the right to do so.

thegirlintheattic

OP I think you need to consider that if you let this go without a disciplinary then you are going to set a precedent.

This person has obviously been taking the pee, otherwise his colleagues would not have complained. If they see nothing being done the next time they want to leave a little early they will not see any problem in doing the same thing.