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Can employee be sacked for being a few minutes late?
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Agreed re levels of offence and rulings.
Camera was possibly trained on the entrance/exit so they saw what time he arrived and left. In jobs where a timesheet is to be filled in it obviously means something - whether pay is involved or not. Although I do concede that someone may well be inclined to disregard lateness and early finishing as long as it is vaguely within their 9-5 shift timings. He could not have done this with a clocking in system so should not do so with a timesheet either. It is of importance to the employer if not to him.
Not so important that the employer in this case had to be told of this.
A timesheet in many places is not used for payroll but only there because it is law to have one, for the fire service etc
I timesheet is not a clocking in machine so it would be wrong to compare them, they can have different purposes.
( even tho I compared them in an earlier post
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Yes but if it IS in a place that requires it by law then surely it is of paramount importance? We certainly don't have them where I work but hourly paid employees must clock on.0 -
Yes but if it IS in a place that requires it by law then surely it is of paramount importance? We certainly don't have them where I work but hourly paid employees must clock on.
paramount importance!
Air
Food
water
not sure rounding up less than 10 mins comes under paramount importance
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paramount importance!
Air
Food
water
not sure rounding up less than 10 mins comes under paramount importance
16:53 large fire breaks out.
16:58 Fire service turns up and informed that X is missing from the fire assembly point but is on site.
17:06 Fireman dies searching for X.
21:32 Pet kitten dies from loneliness.
Could happen...0 -
Just wanted to point out there is no such thing as instant dismissal, employers should have a disciplinary policy, which includes investigations, right to be accompanied etc.
If an employee does not follow a fair procedure they will almost certainly lose at a tribunal - even if the employee is guilty of dishonesty, look up the ACAS code of conduct for Grievance and Discipline.0 -
Just wanted to point out there is no such thing as instant dismissal, employers should have a disciplinary policy, which includes investigations, right to be accompanied etc.
If an employee does not follow a fair procedure they will almost certainly lose at a tribunal - even if the employee is guilty of dishonesty, look up the ACAS code of conduct for Grievance and Discipline.
That's totally wrong. If the employee is found guilty of gross misconduct then the employer can instantly dismiss said employee.0 -
Not the issue of lateness or leaving early but the issue of having to complete timesheets by law.
Yes I understood that but the point is the same, I think you are over stating the point.
It reminds me of the USA who now seems to accuse it's own citizens of being a terrorist at the drop of a hat.
As said before, yes the timesheet should have been filled in correctly but lets keep this in perspective, throwing terms around such as " paramount importance" tends to not help to do that.0 -
16:53 large fire breaks out.
16:58 Fire service turns up and informed that X is missing from the fire assembly point but is on site.
17:06 Fireman dies searching for X.
21:32 Pet kitten dies from loneliness.
Could happen...
it could, but you could keep things in perspective but that seems just as unlikely too 0
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