Bedroom tax and private rent

nannytone_2

and people likeme can languish on the list forever, because the properties we need are not availabe .... or i could rent provately, and claim more than i do presently in \LHA.
and have no security at all....

people without disabiliries really inder estimate the need for security.
you can make your own security .... i cant

sniggings

paddedjohn wrote: »

I'm not going to get into your arguments about your problems, all I'm saying is that rather than charge for under occupancy you should be forced to move, if that means moving to another town or to private rental then so be it, it frees up council properties for more needy cases.

Why don't you want to get into it? maybe because you will have to face real people with real situations, I guess it's just easier to close your eyes and spout your thoughts that affect other people without supporting your argument. Nannytone has given her reasons why she should be allowed to stay in her property, your reply is "I'm not going to get into your arguments about your problems" and that she just should move :eek:

jazzy

paddedjohn wrote: »

Anyone who lives in social housing that has more room than they need should be forced to leave and find a property that is more suitable to them, this then frees up properties for larger families who are more suitable. This should apply even if they can find the shortfall in the rent if the depend on benefits

May also work the opposite way and encourage families to become larger so that they can get a larger property.

RUDEBOX

There are supportive groups and petitions on facebook. 'anti bedroom tax' should help you find us

Poppie68

Nannytone is i believe registered blind and therefore surely a move to a new area and property would be extremely difficult for her to manage. There are stories of disabled people who have spent thousands of pounds of their own money on adaptions, will they be reimbursed? Also what about the properties that LHA have funded? you maybe able to relocate a handrail but i would think a wetroom would be more difficult.

Dunroamin

nannytone wrote: »

im registered blind.
anything out of my local 'known' area would be like a foreign ountry.

people here are aware that i struggle ... and they help/

20 miles aa where no one knows me, and i know no one ..?

you arent disabled.
sont under estimate how important community is for people with additional problems.

take my disabuility away and id have no issue.

if i had to move 20 mukes away, my life would be an existance, no friends, no social life ....

do i have the opportunuty to maake my life better? no i dont.

so keep your opinions to yourself until you understand the effect your wordss habe on people less fortunate

It's the 20 miles away that I don't get. If you had to move a long distance I would understand the problem but that just seems so close to me.

(And I speak as someone who only learned to drive comparatively recently and who has a severely disabled husband.)

Dunroamin

sniggings wrote: »

don't fall for the Tory bull cr*p, the real issue is mortgages too high, rents too high, a shortage of social housing and people trying to make ends meet on the min wage, the answer is not getting an old dear to move from her family home to free it up for someone else, apart from the fact the old dear is excluded from this rule anyway.

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Whilst I agree that there's a shortage of social housing, the mortgage rate is exceptionally low at the moment and very few people have to live on the minimum wage alone as there are so many extra benefits available.

Anny_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

It's the 20 miles away that I don't get. If you had to move a long distance I would understand the problem but that just seems so close to me.

(And I speak as someone who only learned to drive comparatively recently and who has a severely disabled husband.)

Are you blind Dunroamin? no of course not you just 'learned to drive' - is that an option for a blind person? no of course not.

I live 19 miles from the nearest big city and in car it takes me 30 mins approx to get to my place of employment - on bus it takes 1 hour and 45 minutes and that includes a change of buses in a main bus station...if I miss the connection it takes much longer.

To a sighted person that journey, while being long, would be acceptable - to a non-sighted person I would suggest it would be unacceptable and very difficult, and more difficult if the friends/support/social needs you have can only be accessed by journeying for 3 + hours...the time the journey takes alone would limit your access substantially.

FBaby

Claimants should be expected to free larger properties BUT there should be criteria as to the process. People who can demonstrate a genuine need to stay in their area ie. sensory disabilities, severe mental health issues not just anxiety or stress should be given more time to find something local. It might take longer however there's bound to be a time when such a property fees up and when it does there should be no choice.

mrs_motivated

Everyone is going over the same issues over and over again.

Lets look at facts.

1. There is a severe lack of social housing, mainly due to right to buy and the fact that the capital receipts from these sales were not used to build new social housing (as was originally promised by Michael Hestletine).

2. The remaining stock in just about every major town and city, lacks diversity ie. there are a not enough different sized properties.

3. If it is about freeing up properties for those in need, then pensioners would not be exempt, as there are a much greater number of old folks under occupying.

4. This policy along with flexible tenancies and pay to stay, will in fact stigmatise social housing further, with council estates becoming estates for people with two or three children only and everyone entirely dependent on benefits. Therefore local business will close (with of course the exception of loan sharks) etc etc. lt is fairly obvious as any social study will show you for society to succeed, there needs to be balanced and sustainable communities. All these policies fly against this.

5. If folk can't find £14 a week, they cannot afford to move. Eg removals, new furniture, carpets, curtains, disposal of furniture etc. they are also much more likely to rely on local support, disabled or not and a move of even 6 miles, will make them socially isolated. That is assuming there are enough smaller properties, which there isn't.