Pre- interview interview

studentphil

Alright, I have made my point now to them that treating emails from job applicants as high risk of spam is not a good thing and that they need to update their application form.

newMS

stand as much chance as anyone else, but you going on like a deranged stalker with your demands won't have helped.

studentphil

TOBRUK wrote: »

We are back to this AGAIN - you were not called a spammer it was not personal!! They weren't wrong in questioning your email and you did not go about it the right way! Stop making out that you are a victim!

I have made my point to them and I was a bit wrong but now I think if I am chilled that I can still get this job if I play my cards right.

shameless-about-money

Phil - the idea is that you put in your application for a job - then you wait and see if you hear from them.

You might get an interview, you might not. Most employers don't respond to job applications any more. Rude, yes , but that is the way it is.

If you keep going the way you are going no-one will employ you.

Just because you will have a degree doesn't automatically entitle you to a job. Plus the fact that a degree like philosophy prepares you for absolutely nothing.

If you look at it from an employers point of view, what have you got to offer them? Not a lot. So you take a menial job and 'prove your worth'.

I have a lot of qualifications - the Job Centre told me to get a job doing basic admin work in an office. When I applied for those jobs I got letters back which said "unsuitable". I was devastated. And they knew nothing about my being disabled.

You are just making problems for yourself.

You are not a walking disability, you are a person with a disability who needs to give more thought to a workplace situation. Nothing more. An employer won't be interested. You will be one person in a many. You won't be the centre of attention at work, you will just have to knuckle down and work.

I tend to think that you are just an attention-seeker - the posts on mse prove that.

It all rests on attitude - YOUR attitude - which right now leaves a lot to be desired.

newMS

so before you even have a foot in the door you have insulted they way they work? not a good move is it really... i recently filled in two job application forms and neither of those asked if i were disabled but on the equal op form that came with it did......... when i got a letter inviting me to interview i was asked to call to confirm and then asked if i had any special needs as the interview was held on the third floor of an old victorian house ( no i didn't get it but i didn't have my heart set on it so it wasn't the end of the world)

studentphil

newMS wrote: »

stand as much chance as anyone else, but you going on like a deranged stalker with your demands won't have helped.

Not really, 3 phone calls and a few emails is not a huge amount.

I was fine and happy until this spammer rubbish came up and it did annoy me a bit.

However, I am cool now as I have made my point and I can go forward with a good chance now.

shameless-about-money

studentphil wrote: »

I have made my point to them and I was a bit wrong but now I think if I am chilled that I can still get this job if I play my cards right.

To be truthful? You have as much hope as a chocolate teapot!

msmicawber

If what a couple of posters have said is correct and you're applying for a job at the University you have been attending, then you will be treated 'by the book' and the job will be offered to whoever meets the criteria laid out in the job specification regardless of any disability. That's why they don't ask about disability, family responsibilities, etc. on the application form. It is the way the public sector works. However, another poster said that you are applying for a job organising conferences, in which case you will need organisational skills, ability to get on with and motivate people and work to tight schedules. You'll also have to think on your feet and deal with last minute changes of plan, not to mention think of other people rather than yourself and work as part of a team.

Having worked in a University myself, I spent a lot of time telling students that if they put the energy into actually doing their dissertations that they put into finding excuses for not doing it, they'd get the degree that they were hoping for. You sound just like them. If you want a job, then it's time to stop being so naive and self-obsessed and look at what they want for the post, not what you think you have to offer generally. Once you've been working for a few years and have got more senior, then you can start laying down conditions - not when you're totally unproven.

Would you want to employ you? Really? What if you needed something done quickly, without argument or obfuscation?

studentphil

shameless-about-money wrote: »

Phil - the idea is that you put in your application for a job - then you wait and see if you hear from them.

You might get an interview, you might not. Most employers don't respond to job applications any more. Rude, yes , but that is the way it is.

If you keep going the way you are going no-one will employ you.

Just because you will have a degree doesn't automatically entitle you to a job. Plus the fact that a degree like philosophy prepares you for absolutely nothing.

If you look at it from an employers point of view, what have you got to offer them? Not a lot. So you take a menial job and 'prove your worth'.

I have a lot of qualifications - the Job Centre told me to get a job doing basic admin work in an office. When I applied for those jobs I got letters back which said "unsuitable". I was devastated. And they knew nothing about my being disabled.

You are just making problems for yourself.

You are not a walking disability, you are a person with a disability who needs to give more thought to a workplace situation. Nothing more. An employer won't be interested. You will be one person in a many. You won't be the centre of attention at work, you will just have to knuckle down and work.

I tend to think that you are just an attention-seeker - the posts on mse prove that.

It all rests on attitude - YOUR attitude - which right now leaves a lot to be desired.

Alright, I know, I go about it badly and it does upset me that I do. I started this whole wanting this job because it have an ideal to make this employer world class and to make it better. I raised a concern about the application form as I feel it is important for disabled rights to be upheld. I always start from the best of intent and dreams, but then because I fear being rejected and so not being able to help and so not being able to make a difference that I always push it one step too far in trying to prove myself. But then I always end up upset and frustrated as I am now.

newMS

but you didn't need to make anymore than ONE phonecall if the person in question is to get back to you, no need for 3 and a few emails at all