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A complicated tale...

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  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    How many staff are at the hospital, and how much is the pass each month?
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    taffy056 wrote: »
    If they ban you from the car park, then you can't do your job because of the ban, I would think that would be considered constructive dismissal. This is a tax on people working at the hospital, it's a disgrace that an nhs trust is involved in it.

    Two things really cheese me off about private car parking, one is hospitals charging patients and staff for parking, when it's free in Wales + Scotland . And parking in motorway service stations over 2 hours. Both are a disgrace and should be banned completely, one is about work and patients the other about safety.

    The op couldn't claim that, as it wouldn't be the trust that employs him that bans him, from the above post.
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    mikey72 wrote: »
    The op couldn't claim that, as it wouldn't be the trust that employs him that bans him, from the above post.

    You are mistaken, only the landowner has the legal right to offer car parking, their agents cannot ban anyone from the land as they don't effectively own it. Also they cannot take people to court as the defence would involve hmrc v vcs amongst other things. If this person is banned from the land that would adversely effect their ability to do their job. So as this is all on invoices without legal merit I would think that the nhs trust involved would be on thin ice.
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
  • Myriddin
    Myriddin Posts: 223 Forumite
    mikey72 wrote: »
    How many staff are at the hospital, and how much is the pass each month?
    The trust operates 4 hospital sites and numerous satellite premises away from the main sites. Staff figures run to many thousands over the Trust footprint.

    Permits are approx £18 per month taken directly from salary - last financial year the Trust gathered, I believe, over £2M from permits and ticket sales.

    Quite a lucrative venture on their part!
    'People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.' Wizard's first rule © Terry Goodkind.
  • note_2
    note_2 Posts: 169 Forumite
    i live in wales and i swear the last time i went to visit someone in hospital i had to pay to park?
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    edited 24 August 2012 at 6:37PM
    taffy056 wrote: »
    You are mistaken, only the landowner has the legal right to offer car parking, their agents cannot ban anyone from the land as they don't effectively own it. Also they cannot take people to court as the defence would involve hmrc v vcs amongst other things. If this person is banned from the land that would adversely effect their ability to do their job. So as this is all on invoices without legal merit I would think that the nhs trust involved would be on thin ice.

    Ignore the tickets, and the PPC. That's immaterial to this.

    The op has agreed to pay £18 from his salary for a parking permit, but is now refusing to, and is parking there for "free".
    This will be somewhere in the t&c's of his employment, but possibilty not directly, as he works for a different trust to that operating the hospital.

    The trust (probably) has enough legal rights to offer parking, the case wasn't specifically only absolute landowner that could.

    The trust has employed an agent to manage the car park, but do you really think it's going to be down to ignoring anything they stick to his car, or down to the refusal to buy the pass, and the feedback from the PPC to the trust, on an individual they ticket every time he parks?
    If all staff do it, because one can, it's a lost revenue of £216 each a year, so even with 1000 employees that's around a quarter of a million pounds they'll lose.

    So, just ignore may be ok at Asda, but maybe there's a bit more here to consider.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,611 Forumite
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    mikey72 wrote: »

    The op has agreed to pay £18 from his salary for a parking permit, but is now refusing to, and is parking there for "free".


    What? Missed that bit...? :eek:
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  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    Myriddin wrote: »
    ..............The hospital trust I am employed by expect all staff who use the hospital car park to buy a monthly permit.......... As a consequence I have refused to pay for a permit and have continued to park within the grounds of the hospital on return visits to my office...........

    Myriddin wrote: »
    ...........Permits are approx £18 per month taken directly from salary........

    Said it twice.
  • taffy056
    taffy056 Posts: 4,895 Forumite
    note wrote: »
    i live in wales and i swear the last time i went to visit someone in hospital i had to pay to park?

    Think you'll find that this has now been introduced


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7275796.stm
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    taffy056 wrote: »
    Think you'll find that this has now been introduced


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7275796.stm

    Couldn't keep it up though.

    First google hit on hospital parking wales

    http://www.cardiffandvaleuhb.wales.nhs.uk/Visitor-Parking-University-Hospital-Wales


    up to £10 day now at the University Hospital
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