grease on railings.

nomadical

ThumbRemote wrote: »

So someone with metal railings would be within their rights to run an electric current through them, killing anyone who touches them? Because it's their railings?

Well, no. Fair enough, you've got me there! I was thinking of far less extreme examples (ie., grease), but obviously didn't word it properly!

John_Jizzle

i was told (by the police and after research) about putting vandal/anti climb paint on my wall. I was told i was only allowed if I put up a sign - and only 2M or higher.

it sounds like this isnt higher than 2M

Mindless_Clone

John_Jizzle wrote: »

i was told (by the police and after research) about putting vandal/anti climb paint on my wall. I was told i was only allowed if I put up a sign - and only 2M or higher.

it sounds like this isnt higher than 2M

... or he has a very tall girlfriend.

I would guess the grease could be for either rust prevention or lean-on-my-railings prevention. To be honest, if you live right outside a bus stop, I think you have to accept people will lean on your property while waiting for a bus so if the householder is doing it for the latter then that's just not nice.

I don't really have anything practical to add, sorry. I don't know what the law is on it all. Common sense would suggest that he shouldn't be doing it and that in doing so, he's left himself liable for all sorts of damaged clothing claims.

C_Mababejive

Azari wrote: »

Untrue.

Look up 'Duty of care to trespasser'.

But if the aggrieved party is not on the occupiers land by invitation then he is merely a trespasser. Of course one may have to take into account the proximity of the fence to the public highway.

One may draw a clear distinction from what may be a circumstance which may cause injury or danger to a trespasser and one which may merely be a deterrent,nuisance or a legitimate device for other purposes.

For example, it would likely be actionable if an occupier set some kind of man trap in his land for the purpose of injuring a trespasser.

The Occupier could perhaps use some suitable product specifically applied for its anti corrosion properties eg waxoyl or could apply anti vandal paint and display a discrete notice in a place which could clearly be seen by any potential trespassers.

Lifes_Grand_Plan

dawlishwulf wrote: »

thanks for all your replies. just spoke to my partner and she is going to have a chat with the local plod to try and get them to have a word with the house holder.

Brilliant use of police time... I love this country... do something wrong and then blame someone else...

I just hope the householder doesn't suddenly realise your partner damaged the fence when they leant on it and start a counter claim.... :rotfl:

lanavdt

Is it just me or should people be able to stand straight for 10-15 minutes without feeling the need to slouch and lean over other people's property? Will the OP's girlfriend be sending a letter to the council next time she steps on some gum or poo?

transient

patman99 wrote: »

If you use anti-vandal paint or grease on your boundary wall/fence/railings then you need to also put up signs to warn people.

OP, I would suggest sending the householder a recorded delivery letter with a bill for the cost of your partners top. Give them 14 days to pay. If they don't, send a notice before action. If they still don't cough-up, take them to Court.

Btw, a lady on a radio phone-in told the presenter she had put barbed wire around the top of her fence to stop the local scroats using her garden as a short-cut. The Police told her it was illegal and she could be prosecuted.
What she should have done was to remove the fence panels and then replace them with the barbed wire. This must be legal as my local farmer has erected barbed wire fencing around all his fields.

How can you advise the OP to write a letter rec del with a bill of the cost of the damage to the top and then send a lba? They have not stated in the OP if there was any warning signs as to the grease and you make a point of the purpose of this but still advise proceeding as such

C_Mababejive

lanavdt wrote: »

Is it just me or should people be able to stand straight for 10-15 minutes without feeling the need to slouch and lean over other people's property? Will the OP's girlfriend be sending a letter to the council next time she steps on some gum or poo?

Indeed. If perhaps the homeowner had a suitably shaped car bonnet (perhaps a Merc SLK?) then anyone who felt jaded could perhaps feel free to relax on it as they waited for the bus or munched a kebab?

meritaten

funnily enough - your fence is supposed to 'delineate' your boundary. as the owner of the fence you are responsible if it harms another person. especially one who is actually standing outside your grounds.
so yes, you can claim the cost of cleaning or replacing the top. small claims court - and you will then have the satisfaction of the mean git paying court costs (dont forget to claim for them).

johnnyboyrebel

mattyprice4004 wrote: »

Smear grease under the edge of their car door handles, or if they don't have a car then their front door.

It'll make you feel better

Grease? When we were young to 'get our own back' on annoying 'old' people, we chose dog !!!! under the car door handle (applied from the end of a stick of course)