Any teachers out there ? - what actually happens on "Inset days " ?

ViolaLass

ILW wrote: »

Teachers work 195 days a year.
That averages around 16 days per month, or half the days.
Do they consider it a full time job?

At a guess, I average around a 10 hour day (8am-6pm, although I'm ignoring the couple of hours I'll sometimes put in after supper too) then another 10 hours over the weekend, probably more. This is during term time only, of course.

That's for 39 weeks of the year (195/5). That makes a total of 60 x 39 = 2340 hours.

This ignores the hours I have spent this summer preparing for September and the time I'll invariably spend during half terms and other holidays getting marking and preparation done.

If I worked in an office and did a 40 hour week for 50 weeks of the year, that would be 40 x 50 = 2000 hours.

So, yes, I do consider it a full-time job, the difference being that my hours are spread less evenly through the year.

Idiophreak

ILW wrote: »

Teachers work 195 days a year.
That averages around 16 days per month, or half the days.
Do they consider it a full time job?

Half the days, but not half the working days.... Ie, most people work 220 days a year, of which 195 is around 90%.

And, teachers *teach*, or are *training* for 195 days. That's not the same thing as *working* 195 days - not by a long shot.

Also, most people working full-time do in the region of 37.5 hours per week. My wife works, on average, 60-70 hours per week.

So, if you average that to be around 13 hours per day....That works out at a total of (195x13) 2535 hours, vs (220x7.5) 1650.

My wife will also work at least a week in each major holiday and a couple of days in each half term...so let's add on another 21 days, or 273 hours, resulting in a total annual commitment of 2808 hours vs the 1650 hours most "full time" people work.

That works out at just over half the hours...I wonder if most people consider themeselves to work in a full-time job?

Sambucus_Nigra

ILW wrote: »

Teachers work 195 days a year.
That averages around 16 days per month, or half the days.
Do they consider it a full time job?

Most people work 4 weeks a month, ie 20 days.

Do they consider that a full time job?

Or should everyone flail themselves with hemp rope and pour acid on their wounds if they don't work 24/7, 365 just to earn a crust?

2010

I can remember years ago when the summer break came and the teachers were off for about 7 weeks, they used to go and work in the local factory for most of this time.
Of course in those days they probably didn`t get as much salary as they do now, but they did know how to teach.

We actually learned something when we were at school.
Such as how to read and write,compose a sentence, how to spell, how to count (no calculators in those days, let alone I Pads, or mobiles).

Other things learned, like manners, respect for elders and authority, and there was none of this "counselling" when the least little thing happens, you just got on with it.

Compared to teachers in the 50/60`s, they`ve got it cushy today.
They seem to let the kids tell them what to do and are probably on first name terms instead of SIR.

annie1975_2

2010 wrote: »

I can remember years ago when the summer break came and the teachers were off for about 7 weeks, they used to go and work in the local factory for most of this time.
Of course in those days they probably didn`t get as much salary as they do now, but they did know how to teach.

We actually learned something when we were at school.
Such as how to read and write,compose a sentence, how to spell, how to count (no calculators in those days, let alone I Pads, or mobiles).

Other things learned, like manners, respect for elders and authority, and there was none of this "counselling" when the least little thing happens, you just got on with it.

Compared to teachers in the 50/60`s, they`ve got it cushy today.
They seem to let the kids tell them what to do and are probably on first name terms instead of SIR.

You must have gone to school same time as me then?.
My child is in secondary school and they have supply after suply teacher, and they are teaching them things they were learning in yr 6.(3 Years ago)..No discipline,and homework is just printed off internet,and when they do homework or projects they very rarely even get looked at by the teachers.
I am sure there are good teachers out there as there is bad ones,but I agree teachers are not what they used to be.

2010

annie1975 wrote: »

You must have gone to school same time as me then?.
My child is in secondary school and they have supply after suply teacher, and they are teaching them things they were learning in yr 6.(3 Years ago)..No discipline,and homework is just printed off internet,and when they do homework or projects they very rarely even get looked at by the teachers.
I am sure there are good teachers out there as there is bad ones,but I agree teachers are not what they used to be.

I don`t really blame the teachers for the state we are in.
It`s, as usual, the interfering politicians, mainly Labour.

They took away the power from the teachers, police and parents and that`s why the kids are dictating to everyone because they know they can`t be touched.

Notmyrealname

kittie wrote: »

we worked hard on inset days. Started with a full staff meeting with lectures etc. Quick cup of coffee then probably more lectures. pm usually full department meetings often taking a couple of hours at least. Very little time for personal prep in our (comp) school

My heart bleeds. Must be really hard staying awake.

Idiophreak

2010 wrote: »

I don`t really blame the teachers for the state we are in.
It`s, as usual, the interfering politicians, mainly Labour.

They took away the power from the teachers, police and parents and that`s why the kids are dictating to everyone because they know they can`t be touched.

What power have they taken from parents, exactly?

Parents still have plenty of power to make their children into decent, functioning human beings...it's just that so few can be bothered to make the effort...

It's got nothing to do with the government interfering, unless it's that they keep on encouraging people to sprog farm for a living...

Notmyrealname

BristolBob wrote: »

It is not a case of you having to rearrange your shifts to accomModate teacher training.

Yes it is. There are 13 weeks a year they could fit these training days in.

School is not a childminding service, organised for the convenience of your schedule.

Whilst the law requires that I have to send my child to school and they dictate when I cannot take them on holiday, yes it is a child minding service - one that just happens to involve teaching.

Acc72

2010 wrote: »

Other things learned, like manners, respect

Reading this thread and presuming that some replies are from teachers, it would appear that some teachers are not best placed to teach these skills.