Any teachers out there ? - what actually happens on "Inset days " ?

ILW

I went to school a long time ago and I do believe that teachers were a different breed then. They tended to be the types that commanded discipline without the need for rules etc. The ones that could not control a class through force of personality alone tended to go into different careers. Many teachers I have met lately seem to be a little whimpy and let the kids walk all over them.

BristolBob

Notmyrealname wrote: »

1)Whilst the law requires that I have to send my child to school 2) and they dictate when I cannot take them on holiday, yes it is a child minding service - one that just happens to involve teaching.

1) The law doesn't require that you send your child to school.
2) You want it both ways? You want them to have your children for extra days AND you want to be able to remove your child from school during the school year, at dates of your choosing? Are you sure that your concern is about this all being for the convenience of the teachers?

Slinky

The mistake the schools make with 'inset' days is identifying them as such. When I was a child, you went to school in term time, you didn't go to school on what were called school holidays. It never occured to me to wonder how much time if any in my school holidays, teachers were working or whether they were on training days.

Why do the schools need to identify these training or inset days? What actual benefit is it to parents?

aliaslotte

On my last inset day, we were in for around 8 hours in a meeting. We took 30 minutes for lunch. The rest of the time was spent organising the school calendar, arranging events and themed curriculum weeks, and preparing our 'self evalutation' document for an upcoming Ofsted.

2010

Well a neighbour of mine was a teacher until about a year ago when she retired.

These so-called inset/training days are not really a full day anyway.
She would set off about 9-30am and be back with her Asda shopping by 1-30pm.

The two days could have been made into one and even then it wouldn`t be a full 8 hour shift.

ViolaLass

2010 wrote: »

Well a neighbour of mine was a teacher until about a year ago when she retired.

These so-called inset/training days are not really a full day anyway.
She would set off about 9-30am and be back with her Asda shopping by 1-30pm.

The two days could have been made into one and even then it wouldn`t be a full 8 hour shift.

So she got to keep some of her holiday time.

Idiophreak

dizzyrascal wrote: »

My parents did not expect this to be taught in school. I don't understand why you think it would now.

Because it saves parents from having to bother?

Seriously, the amount of things that I was taught by my parents that kids these days aren't is just shocking.

Yes, there's respect, and discipline, and manners, all that sort of stuff...But there's also basic life skills. I'm sure, by the time I went to school, I could tie my own laces, pack my own bag etc...So many kids these are barely potty trained, or unable to dress themselves by school age.

And then there's education...I could certainly read a little by the time I went to school and I could count pretty well...But these days my wife's school receives a *disturbing* number of children that don't know what a book is...Not that they don't know how to read, but literally don't know what a book is, or what it might be used for...Don't know how to hold it, don't know how to turn the pages...

It's fascinating that people send their kids off to school in this state and then have the audacity to say "teachers were so much better when I was young..."

annie1975_2

2010 wrote: »

Well a neighbour of mine was a teacher until about a year ago when she retired.

These so-called inset/training days are not really a full day anyway.
She would set off about 9-30am and be back with her Asda shopping by 1-30pm.

The two days could have been made into one and even then it wouldn`t be a full 8 hour shift.

Its like the working day,i cant vouch for what time teachers go home,but near us you see them going in a bout 8.45am,start at 9am ,and school ends at 3.15pm.In between there are 2x15 minute breaks and an hour for lunch.That leaves 4hrs 45 minutes to teach...When you look at Joe blogs,he goes to work and is there for 9 hrs with 45 mins dinner and 1x 15 minute break....
I know teachers dont go home at 3.15..but on the other hand like the teachers at our school they dont want to be there and it reflects in the way they "teach"..

ViolaLass

annie1975 wrote: »

I know teachers dont go home at 3.15..but on the other hand like the teachers at our school they dont want to be there and it reflects in the way they "teach"..

Can we watch the generalisations please? I DO want to be there and I certainly don't leave at 3:15pm (or if I do, I'll do more work later). There are good teachers and bad teachers, just as there are good office workers and bad office workers.

Idiophreak

annie1975 wrote: »

Its like the working day,i cant vouch for what time teachers go home,but near us you see them going in a bout 8.45am,start at 9am ,and school ends at 3.15pm.In between there are 2x15 minute breaks and an hour for lunch.That leaves 4hrs 45 minutes to teach...When you look at Joe blogs,he goes to work and is there for 9 hrs with 45 mins dinner and 1x 15 minute break....
I know teachers dont go home at 3.15..but on the other hand like the teachers at our school they dont want to be there and it reflects in the way they "teach"..

Sorry to say it, but it sounds like it's a rubbish school, if that's the case...

My wife leaves the house before 7AM each day to get in by 7:15, as do the *vast majority* of the other teaching staff.

She won't be back til gone 6 and is most often not back until 7 - and she normally does some work after dinner, too. She rarely has enough of a "break" at lunch to actually eat anything and often goes without water for the whole day, too. I, meanwhile, sometimes leave at 9:30 to get in for 10, have half hour lunch and leave at 6. I go and get food and drink whenever I'm hungry. I have a good three hours of time alone in the house each day while she's busy working....

I really think you completely overestimate the portion of a teacher's job that is actually spent *teaching* these days...