Holiday Pay confused!

getmore4less

THe holiday pay is getting itemized seperately so is not fully rolled up

casual contratcs can pay te holiday at the end of each contracted work period.

for part timers insidting that all holiday is taken in the month they are paid is easy to establish especialy if the hours are variable you just allocate some hours as holiday. when someone id not available for work at other times they are not on holiday just uavailable..



THe key is to establish the amount of holidays due( so need the full timers holiday allowance) and the rate of pay if holiday is accrued hourly.

the 12.07% only applies if the full time holiday is statutory if more is given then the % goes up.

how/when it gets paid is a secondary issue and not that important

MissSarah1972

Surely it says all this in the OP's contract? You would have thought or at least ask!

Mrs_Arcanum

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

Rolled-up holiday pay

Holiday pay should be paid for the time when you actually take your holiday. Your employer cannot include an amount for holiday pay in your hourly rate (called 'rolled-up holiday pay'). If your current contract still includes rolled-up pay, you and your employer should renegotiate it.

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here

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_10034711

I have passed this info on to a friend who seems to be on this Rolled up holiday pay. Hopefully she will be able to correctly renegotiate her contract.

getmore4less

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

Surely it says all this in the OP's contract? You would have thought or at least ask!

:rotfl:

Alot of people don't have contract spelling out all their conditions

Many emplyers don't know the rules(or pretend not to).

MissSarah1972

getmore4less wrote: »

:rotfl:

Alot of people don't have contract spelling out all their conditions

Many emplyers don't know the rules(or pretend not to).

A contract proves to be very valuable.

About 12 years ago I worked somwhere and they wanted me to take the bank holiday as unpaid or from my holiday and I said no I get paid to which the reply was 'no you do not' and an arguement happened with me and a director where they made me look like an idiot saying to me 'no one gets paid'

I dug out the copy of my contract where it stated 20 days plus bank holidays emailed the director and said as per the contract I expect to be paid. Pointing them to the section about holiday.
They were so embarrassed and had to say to me in front of people that I would be paid.

I was the ONLY one to be paid for my bank holidays as I was only one who had such a contract in the office :rotfl:

KiKi

OP - it seems you are on what's called a Zero Hours Contract. This is a contract where you are not guaranteed hours, but take whatever work they give you. So your hours are different every week, and some weeks you get no work.

Please can you confirm if this is correct?


If so, please then answer the following questions:
a) what is your hourly rate of pay?
b) what is written on your wage slip for your salary every month (I'm not asking about the amount on your wage slip, I'm asking for what is written next to the amounts)


You are entitled to be paid for your holiday, which can be calculated according to how many hours you've done. IF you did full time hours, you'd be entitled to 28 days off every year, fully paid (this includes BHs). If you do fewer hours, then the calculation is done in line with what you actually worked. Eg, if you worked half the time, you'd get half the holiday.

The £1 thing makes no sense at all, and you need to ask your manager:

a) why are you not paid your normal rate for holiday you have built up and then take off
b) to calculate the amount of paid holiday you are owed


KiKi

FunLearn

KiKi wrote: »

OP - it seems you are on what's called a Zero Hours Contract. This is a contract where you are not guaranteed hours, but take whatever work they give you. So your hours are different every week, and some weeks you get no work.

Please can you confirm if this is correct?

No I do do fixed days but I don't have to if I don't want to, I know someone that works at the company and comes and goes as one pleases. Sometimes that person does 2 or 3 days a Month, then none the next Month.

KiKi wrote: »

If so, please then answer the following questions:

a) what is your hourly rate of pay?

My Hourly rate is exactly £8.5

KiKi wrote: »

b) what is written on your wage slip for your salary every month (I'm not asking about the amount on your wage slip, I'm asking for what is written next to the amounts)

It has...

Description - Hours - Rate - Amount
Over 21 - (Total hours) 8.50 (Total amount)
Holiday Pay - (Holiday Pay Hours) 1.00 (Total amount)
Total Hourly Pay include Holiday Pay - (Total amount)

Then Rates and Deductions for Income Tax an NI.

Say for example this Month on my wage slip, my Holiday Hours are 100 at the rate of £1 I will get £100 Holiday Pay for that Month and to get that Holiday pay at £100 I have to work around 120-130 Hours in that Month.

Then next Month if I work less hours, then I did the following Month my Holiday Pay in hours will be less then last Month.

No Hours worked = No Holiday Pay.

paddedjohn

KiKi wrote: »

OP - it seems you are on what's called a Zero Hours Contract. This is a contract where you are not guaranteed hours, but take whatever work they give you. So your hours are different every week, and some weeks you get no work.

Please can you confirm if this is correct?


If so, please then answer the following questions:
a) what is your hourly rate of pay?
b) what is written on your wage slip for your salary every month (I'm not asking about the amount on your wage slip, I'm asking for what is written next to the amounts)


You are entitled to be paid for your holiday, which can be calculated according to how many hours you've done. IF you did full time hours, you'd be entitled to 28 days off every year, fully paid (this includes BHs). If you do fewer hours, then the calculation is done in line with what you actually worked. Eg, if you worked half the time, you'd get half the holiday.

The £1 thing makes no sense at all, and you need to ask your manager:

a) why are you not paid your normal rate for holiday you have built up and then take off
b) to calculate the amount of paid holiday you are owed


KiKi

Have a read of my post above and see if it answers any of your questions.

KiKi

paddedjohn wrote: »

Have a read of my post above and see if it answers any of your questions.

Ah, I missed that post; sorry. Yes, it makes a lot of sense. I think I missed a whole page of posts, somehow, as I didn't see half of these!!


OP, did you read paddedjohn's post above? Does it make sense now?

KiKi

getmore4less

We are still missing the holidays a full time worker gets.

For statutory holidays worked out in hours on a £8.50ph holiday pay is 102.6p

Thats where the £1 is coming from employer is rounding down(which is wrong).

The IP is loosing out by 2.6p per hour or more if the full time holidays are more than statutory.