Train ticket punishment for 16yo

Tilt

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

But not treated as a 'juvenile' for ticketing purposes.

They may be the 'rules' but I happen to think it is wrong.

We want to encourage our children(yes children at 16 to me) to stay on at school and be educated, and yet on the other hand treat them like 'adults' when it comes to paying for things.

You will be saying that they should get a discount on cigarettes next. Some want to smoke at 16 'like an adult' but they don't want to pay adult fares. Funny that.

Stigy

chambta wrote: »

It's a little unfair in many ways. He's a schoolchild effectively. They wouldn't sell him a beer on the train as he isn't an adult of course!

Although correct, Morally, On-train buffets are exempt from local licencing laws as they obviously travel through several different counties on a single journey quite often, and licencing is subject to local Government.

I must admit, I just assumed that this was the TOC's prosecutions department getting in touch and that the matter was referred straight to them. Obviously my advice still stands, as unpaid Penalty Fares and Unpaid Unpaid Fare notices are cancelled and prosecuted in the Mags court, the same as standard railway prosecutions.

POPPYOSCAR

neilmcl wrote: »

So you dont believe a 16yr old "child" should take responsibility for his or her's actions?

And I said that where exactly?

POPPYOSCAR

Tilt wrote: »

You will be saying that they should get a discount on cigarettes next. Some want to smoke at 16 'like an adult' but they don't want to pay adult fares. Funny that.

It is illegal to sell cigarettes to someone under the age of 18.

rdwarr

When I was a kid it used to be full fare as soon as you were fourteen, even though the school leaving age was 16. There are many options available to those over 15 to get discounted tickets though.
Anyway, hopefully the OP will come back and tell us what the £100 actually is so that the genuine experts above can advise further.

Tilt

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

It is illegal to sell cigarettes to someone under the age of 18.

As it happens, I am aware of that. But the point i'm trying to make is that when I was a bus driver, I often would pull up at a stop and see a 'kid' put a cigarette out as I approached his/her stop and then attempt to pay half fare when getting on the bus.

So, do I let them travel for child fare given that they cannot buy cigarettes under the age of 18?

My thinking is that if they want to do adult things they should pay adult fares.

mikey72

Tilt wrote: »

As it happens, I am aware of that. But the point i'm trying to make is that when I was a bus driver, I often would pull up at a stop and see a 'kid' put a cigarette out as I approached his/her stop and then attempt to pay half fare when getting on the bus.

So, do I let them travel for child fare given that they cannot buy cigarettes under the age of 18?

My thinking is that if they want to do adult things they should pay adult fares.

They can smoke them under 18 if they're given them, so how are you going to make any sensible judgement on their age?

Tilt

mikey72 wrote: »

They can smoke them under 18 if they're given them, so how are you going to make any sensible judgement on their age?

I don't have to make a judgement. But they have a harder job of convincing me that they qualify to pay half/child fare.

Like I said, if the want to do adult things, then they should pay accordingly.

mikey72

Tilt wrote: »

I don't have to make a judgement. But they have a harder job of convincing me that they qualify to pay half/child fare.

Like I said, if the want to do adult things, then they should pay accordingly.

You seem fairly quick to judge they're liars.

Tilt

mikey72 wrote: »

You seem fairly quick to judge they're liars.

What as that got to do with the price of fish? If they can afford and be old enough to smoke, the they can afford and are old enough to pay the adult fare. Simples.