Train ticket punishment for 16yo

chambta

It's a little unfair in many ways. He's a schoolchild effectively. They wouldn't sell him a beer on the train as he isn't an adult of course!

gingerdad

chambta wrote: »

It's a little unfair in many ways. He's a schoolchild effectively. They wouldn't sell him a beer on the train as he isn't an adult of course!

dont think its unfair at all travel on the wrong ticket or train and get a fine. if hes willing to break the rules then must be willing to take the penalty

andygb

chambta wrote: »

It's a little unfair in many ways. He's a schoolchild effectively. They wouldn't sell him a beer on the train as he isn't an adult of course!

OK, forget the fine and send him to a young offender's institute for a month.
I think the fine would be a much better idea, and maybe double it if he does it again.
In your first post, you were trying to find out if he could get away with it, if the fine was "enforcable".
Why should we keep on letting people get away with crime, particularly at a young age when they need to learn a lesson.

Axial

Arguements aside....is it a Penalty Fare or an Unpaid Fares Notice?

Tilt

It amazed me when I worked on the buses that you would pull up at a stop with a 'youngster' with a fag in his mouth standing there and then expect to pay half fare!

If they are old enough to do adult things, then they should pay adult fares.

Just saying.

gingeralan

A child fare on the railway it's for people aged 15 and under. Once you hit your 16th birthday you are supposed to pay full adult fare.

yorkie2

There is an unbelievable amount of misinformation and misconceptions in this thread!

There is not enough information in the original post to be able to give appropriate, accurate advice, however given the lack of information in the opening post, the most appropriate advice would be that provided by Stigy.

This sort of question is best asked at a dedicated Fares, Ticketing & Routeing forum, however without much more information it isn't really feasible for even the best experts to give the best possible advice.

bap98189

Hintza wrote: »

Interesting thread.

But why is 16 classed as an adult? Most are still at school, have always thought it a little unfair.

At 16 you can leave school, get married and join the army. Those are pretty adult activities it seems to me.

Livingthedream

Stigy wrote: »

If £100 is truely too steep, maybe an apologetic letter to the company, the offer of maybe £20, plus the fare avoided would do the trick? I'm sure they'd respect this.

Great tip, well worth the effort in writing a letter to the relevant Train Company. The worst they will say is 'No' we want the full amount, but as it's somebody whose 16yrs old, TBH I don't think the Train Company wouldn't want the hassle of prosecuting him especially if this is the first time they've come to the attention of Train Company.

Hintza

bap98189 wrote: »

At 16 you can leave school, get married and join the army. Those are pretty adult activities it seems to me.

OK let me rephrase it slightly, it would seem fairer that if the child is still in "secondary" education they should be eligible for the child fare.

Will that do?