neighbour's untaxed van - moral dilemma

Sgt_Pepper_2

Lum wrote: »

If it wasn't SORNed then the neighbours would have had an automatic fine in the post by now anyway. The DVLA are good at those.

Really the only thing they need snitches for these days is people keeping/using a SORNed vehicle on the public highway who don't drive through ANPR cameras.

Have we established it is on a public highway?

bazster

Sgt_Pepper wrote: »

Have we established it is on a public highway?

No. The OP told us it is in an allocated parking space (well two actually) which suggests it is not on the public highway.

bazster

Lum wrote: »

If it wasn't SORNed then the neighbours would have had an automatic fine in the post by now anyway. The DVLA are good at those.

Really the only thing they need snitches for these days is people keeping/using a SORNed vehicle on the public highway who don't drive through ANPR cameras.

I'll take your word for it. I once left a vehicle un-SORN'ed for months while I was out of the country, with no comeback, but it was a good few years ago.

Lum

Sgt_Pepper wrote: »

Have we established it is on a public highway?

Pretty much the opposite. It's in an allocated parking space, admittedly one that's allocated to visitors.

I was just pointing out that these days the DVLA deal with un-SORNed cars automatically and only really need informing if a SORNed car is on the public highway... therefore the OP needed bother.

George_Michael

Lum wrote: »

If it wasn't SORNed then the neighbours would have had an automatic fine in the post by now anyway.

Providing that the van is actually registered to the neighbour.

fivetide

bazster wrote: »

And may be SORN'ed, in which case it's all legal.

Blimey, an echo!

Lum is spot on with speaking to the management agency.

Technically, to be SORN the vehicle needs to be on private land with the consent of the landowner.

I situations like this, where the land is potentially in joint ownership the vehicle owner does not have the permission of the landowner in the form of the OP.

As residents we successfully had a number of cars shifted as a home dealer was filling up the car park with his untaxed stock.

5t.

marmitequeen

Hi all, thanks to everyone for taking the time to post - it is much appreciated. I don't have time at the moment to comment on each individually but:
- there is no management company, merely an indication on everyone's deeds which spaces are theirs (not even lines painted on the tarmac!) It is a development built some 20 years ago. That's one of the reasons I wondered if it is technically on or off the road.
- I saw this as a moral dilemma because of the frustration caused by this guy. If that hadn't been there I'd have reported him without worrying as what he's doing is wrong (if it's public highway). Your posts have made me realise I just need to report it, so I will do. Thanks for that.
- I've just got to work out the make of the van (big white van doesn't count, apparently) which I'll do when I walk past it later today. I'll let you know if anything happens after the report.

Thanks again.

Lum

That askMID search will also tell you the make and model of the van if you don't want to be seen snooping around reading the badges on the back.

And if there's no marked spaces then the DVLA will probably think it's a public road, should they ever bother to turn up.


Personally I wouldn't report an untaxed vehicle just for the sake of being untaxed, but as he's causing other problems and being abusive to people who try to have a discussion about it then I'd say go ahead and report it, it's a means to an end in this case.

bazster

marmitequeen wrote: »

there is no management company, merely an indication on everyone's deeds which spaces are theirs (not even lines painted on the tarmac!)

I'm afraid that either those terms in your deeds are meaningless, or these spaces are not on the public highway. The company that sold the houses in the first place didn't have had the power to designate dedicated parking spaces on the public highway.

Lum

Who, if anyone, repairs the road?