Feral kittens

Fire_Fox

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

You take any unwanted animal to the RSPCA and they will put it to sleep.I read an article in the Sunday Mirror a couple of years ago about a woman who worked there.She said they just wanted peoples money from wills etc and put everything that moved to sleep.She was disgusted and quit the job.
If anybody wants to donate to an animal charity I would urge them to support a local charity that rehomes all animals and doesnt Put them to sleep. Or send the money in food or vets vouchers or something.

An article in a tabloid [STRIKE]toilet paper[/STRIKE] newspaper is not evidence that the RSPCA put all animals to sleep! They are a registered charity, what happens to the donations if not spent on caring for animals? Where do they get the animals from that they do rehome, are they on the rob? :rotfl:

Froglet

So many people slag off the RSPCA because they won't respond to every cry for help.Although it is perceived they have loads of money compared to some smaller animal charities it is because they have been around the longest,there was no charity looking out for animals before them.So what they do have they need to use wisely and also their time,there are not enough hours in the day for the amount of cruelty that gets reported.

So yes there will always be incidents where people feel hard done by.But blame the person who has caused that animal to suffer!! Without the RSPCA there would be a hell of a lot more suffering,and we would be treating animals like they still do in China,Korea,the Phillipines,Spain etc etc.Dreadfully,without any compassion.

They don't always get it right,I know that,but i would never stop calling them out if i believed they were needed.I for one have never known them refuse.

dandelionclock30

I believe an animal is kept for a few days then killed. People are being naive here if they think thats not true.They just destroy the majority of animals that are handed into them fact.
Theres been a lot in the papers about this over the years, not just in one paper. Wheres your evidence to the contary then that a lot of the animals are rehomed?
Sorry but its the truth even if its unpalatable for people. The money they get goes on the wages of the staff and promoting the image of the company and upon trying to get people toleave money in wills. They will never get a penny of my money.
There are better animal charities out there whos policies are not to put a healthy animal to sleep.
Its not about not responding for every cry for help thats not where the problem is.

Fire_Fox

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

I believe an animal is kept for a few days then killed. People are being naive here if they think thats not true.They just destroy the majority of animals that are handed into them fact.
Theres been a lot in the papers about this over the years, not just in one paper. Wheres your evidence to the contary then that a lot of the animals are rehomed?
Sorry but its the truth even if its unpalatable for people. The money they get goes on the wages of the staff and promoting the image of the company and upon trying to get people toleave money in wills. They will never get a penny of my money.
There are better animal charities out there whos policies are not to put a healthy animal to sleep.
Its not about not responding for every cry for help thats not where the problem is.

SOME animals are PTS because they are classified as not rehomable due to physical conditions like FIV or due to behavioural (mental health) issues - in other words these are NOT all the healthy animals you claim. Many healthy animals remain in the care of RSPCA branches for months on end. Please supply evidence for your wild claims that are not media scaremongering. The Freedom of Information Act is at your disposal if the evidence you seek is not in the public domain. Otherwise pipe down with your libellous allegations.

The RSPCA is NOT a company it is a registered charity and there are stringent regulations for how charities are run. Of course a significant proportion of their income goes on wages, do you expect the animals to be cared for and inspections to be carried out by angels or trained monkeys? And of course a proportion is spent on campaigning for donations, almost every charity does that.

You remind me of those people - who have never worked in the NHS nor know anything about healthcare - who think the NHS wages bill should be primarily doctors and nurses. No admin staff, managers or allied health professionals. :rotfl:

zaksmum

Still no sign of the kittens.....

Fire_Fox

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Sorry but you dont know what you are on about and you are not providing any evidence to the contary either. You provide the evidence that healthy animals are not put to sleep.(The RSPCA does not have a policy which states that they dont PTS a healthy animal.)
But you wont be able to will you because this is what happens.
You remind me of one of those people who believes everything they are told. If your boss said pigs were flying passed the window, then you would write a paper on the problem of flying pigs in your area.
By the way this is a public forum and people can write the truth on it. So I wont be quiet- so jog on and get the information to prove your side of the argument instead of trying to silence people because its not what you want to hear.
The truth hurts doesnt it? Unlike you whos got your head firmly burried in the sand- to put it polietly, lots of people like vets and animal shelters know this to be true.
So go and shake your tin elcewhere,like on the moon where its made of cream cheese you know.

Try actually reading my post as I read yours, do not make erroneous assumptions and inferences. You claimed ANY unwanted animal will be PTS by the RSPCA. This is libellous rubbish for which you have provided NO evidence.

Now you are claiming that I said the exact opposite??? :rotfl: What I actually said was "Some animals are PTS because they are classified as not rehomable due to physical conditions like FIV or due to behavioural (mental health) issues". The rescues that claim not to PTS healthy animals are often keeping animals alive that DO have diagnosed health issues that make them difficult or impossible to rehome. Their definition of a healthy animal is not the same as the RSPCA's which I am sure you are well aware of given your EXTENSIVE research in tabloid [STRIKE]toilet paper[/STRIKE] newspapers. I choose to read reputable sources and speak to a variety of people working for or volunteering for different rescues.

dandelionclock30

Please provide the evidence that the RSPCA do not destroy large amounts of healthy animals where there is nothing at all wrong with them. Come on please? Wheres your extensive research to support what you say that the RSPCA cares for many healthy animals for months on an end?
Its a known fact that the RSPCA will destroy a healthy animal within days.Thats why everybody including vets and animal shelters always say dont take them to the RSPCA. Sorry whether you like it or not they have a very poor reputation amongst animal shelters , vets and animal lovers not just tabloid newspapers.

Froglet

This thread was started to try and get some help in dealing with feral kittens in need.It is a shame it is descending into an argument.Surely no one can deny that the RSPCA does a lot of good.If it didn't no one would donate and they would not have a nationwide army of inspectors,animal collection officers,rescue centres and wildlife hospitals.

I agree with you Firefox that only healthy animals should be rehomed.It is sad that animals do have to be put to sleep through illness or aggression issues but that again is the fault of the previous owner.Some rescue centres are condemning these particular animals to long term suffering through not getting a home because of their problems and i truly believe they are better being put to sleep than leading a miserable life in what amounts to a prison cell.

It is a hard fact of life that there are far too many animals without homes,even healthy ones.So the RSPCA have to make tough decisions sometimes.If the law was tightened to STOP all breeding for as long as it takes to rehome animals already living,then we could be more objective about which animals deserve to be saved.

Anyway Zaks mum, it is worrying to hear they have not returned yet,i wonder if trying to catch them has frightened them off.Hopefully they will return,or someone else will see them and feed them.There are lots of good rescues trying their best for ferals who have a tough time trying to survive.You have done your best and if they do return at least you have some good contacts now.