Supermarket putting goods that have been on floor in chill cabinets

skivenov

In a retail supply chain, your food goes alsorts of places that you wouldn't eat your dinner off. Luckily, there's an invention to make it safe, they call it "packaging".

italiastar

skivenov wrote: »

In a retail supply chain, your food goes alsorts of places that you wouldn't eat your dinner off. Luckily, there's an invention to make it safe, they call it "packaging".

I'm afraid that you (and others) are missing the point - I am not concerned about the contamination of the contents - my concern is cross contamination of the fridge, work surfaces, cupboards, chopping boards etc, that may come into contact with items that have been placed on the floor - I appreciate that supermarket floors may be cleaned once a day, but they come into contact with much more contamination.

As I said, I am not looking for people's opinions - some people don't wash their hands after going to the loo and think this is acceptable, but food safety law sees this differently.

banger9365

simple answer keep your "fridge, work surfaces, cupboards, chopping boards etc,"clean

phill99

I still feel dealing with your paranoia is the way forward for you.

skivenov

italiastar wrote: »

I'm afraid that you (and others) are missing the point - I am not concerned about the contamination of the contents - my concern is cross contamination of the fridge, work surfaces, cupboards, chopping boards etc, that may come into contact with items that have been placed on the floor - I appreciate that supermarket floors may be cleaned once a day, but they come into contact with much more contamination.

As I said, I am not looking for people's opinions - some people don't wash their hands after going to the loo and think this is acceptable, but food safety law sees this differently.

That's ok, I don't eat the packaging, nor do I place foodstuffs directly on shelves or worktops, and only clean foods go on my chopping boards.

I also clean my kitchen, fridge and utensils regularly.

italiastar

skivenov wrote: »

That's ok, I don't eat the packaging, nor do I place foodstuffs directly on shelves or worktops, and only clean foods go on my chopping boards.

I also clean my kitchen, fridge and utensils regularly.

Why should I just because others don't follow good practice ?

Timalay

Please explain how the germs and nasties get on the food itself if the packaging airsealed?

If in doubt spray it with some Dettol, it kills 99.9% of bacteria.

Mindless_Clone

italiastar wrote: »

Why should I just because others don't follow good practice ?

Er, because you're the one who's paranoid about it. Read some of the replies; the food is wrapped; everything in the fridge is wrapped. No germs actually get actually directly onto the actual food. It's perfectly safe to put it ON the floor and then unwrap the outer packaging and put it IN the fridge.
Besides, the "good practice" part is the fact the floors are cleaned at least once a day and the shelves are wiped (probably once a week, if not daily) with a disinfectant solution. It's called Endbac, by the way, and supermarkets go through gallons of it a day.

Put it another way. Suppose the supermarket scrupulously wrap and protect all food before it goes on the shelf so it's 100% (or 99.9% probably) germ free. Supposed they disinfect their shelving so that they are germ free. Suppose the swab the whole area to ensure it's fully sterile. Never mind the labour costs involved, suppose they do this every single day before the store opens. Clock chimes... whatever time they open... and in walks Mr Smith. Mr Smith is jangling his hands in a pocket full of dirty coins. Mr Smith also has a stinking rotten cold and is coughing and sneezing all over the place. Mr Smith wipes his drippy snotty nose with a piece of overused tissue, completely inadequate for the job. Mr Smtih ends up with a fair bit of virus laden snot on his already dirty hand. Mr Smith is partial to a bit of wensleydale, he walks down the cheese aisle and picks through the pre packed cheese display to find the one he wants, handling several of the blocks of cheese before settling on the one he likes. He's doing this with his filthy germy hands, the fiend. What an utter swine, spreading his germs all over that lovely sterile supermarket.

How, exactly, does one legislate for that? :huh:


Or, if that scenario doesn't make you think how unrealistic it would be to legislate against all and any contamination...to borrow another forumer's post and put it much more succinctly:

cheltenham_dude wrote: »

I really, honestly, thought this thread was a joke. I'm still kind of hoping it is and I've been suckered in.

antrobus

italiastar wrote: »

...As I said, I am not looking for people's opinions - ...

OK then

italiastar wrote: »

Does anyone know whether food safety regs allow for items which have been on the floor can be placed back on sale. Items I have seen have been packaged cheese, milk, cold chill meals, bread etc.

As far as I'm I'm aware Food Safety Regulations have nothing whatsoever to say on the subject.

Fuzzy_Duck

I used to work on a deli counter in a supermarket, and if you dropped the meat on the floor it was packaged up and reduced. We also put the older meat on top of the fresh (which is fair enough, obviously you want the older produce to go first) but if someone said it didn't look very nice you had to lie and say the lights on top of the meat make it look an unsightly colour. By the time the meat had turned green, it would be taken off the counter to be packaged and reduced.

Since then I have never eaten anything from a deli counter. I keep my distance from them as much as possible though as it was an awful, soul destroying job!