when you reach breaking point

monnagran

Couldn't agree more Butterfly.
What enrages me is that when things like govt money to councils is cut, the first things councillors do is to make sure that their perks are ringfenced. The first things they do is to close down day centres, hitting the old, sick and disabled. They blame govt cuts but I notice that they don't deprive themselves of jollies abroad to study important issues like traffic systems, or cut down on their travel expenses or posh dinners.

We are a tourist island and most of our income and jobs are dependant on tourism. So what happens? the council closes all the tourist centres and the majority of public loos. You couldn't make it up.

I'll stop now before I'm deported.

midnight_express

The government wants the food banks to exist. Next year when crisis loans are axed councils are going to be refering people to food banks. The Tressell Trust was started by a tory mayor. It is all part of the tory benefit cuts.

mardatha

Thank gawd there are still some people who can see what's going on. I get slated in another forum for saying all this - but it is true and they do always look after number one, I wouldnt fuss if we really were "all in it together" but we definitely are NOT.

midnight_express

The tories don't want us "all in it together" they want us fighting amongst ourselves. They want to divide and rule.

valk_scot

midnight_express wrote: »

The tories don't want us "all in it together" they want us fighting amongst ourselves. They want to divide and rule.

One of the main factors that may just finally push us Scots into voting ourself independant is the current Tory goverment. Very few Scots voted Tory but we're still having to put up with their govermental policies. Not very democratic from the pro-nationalist point of view. I'm rather ambivelent atm about independence but if all the future holds is many more years of Tory cutbacks I may throw my vote in with independence and see if we can't do better on our own.

And then of course you lot down South (and West) will have an even harder job getting rid of the present goverment. But someone must have voted them in and it wasn't us!

mardatha

No it wasn't us at all! But we got stuck with them, and today there's an article in the Times saying that Cameron is drawing up plans for the army to be used as strike breakers!! :mad: My dad hated the tories all his life because they got the army to fire on the miners in the 1926 General Strike...he was told this by his dad, long memories for bad deeds eh. And what if your brother is a striker and you're face to face with him over a picket line?
So although it seems like ancient history to many on here - please think about what it means. It means we're going right back there again, with ordinary people struggling like hell and starving. (Google the Jarrow March). Only thing left is the bloody workhouse

midnight_express

First foodbanks, then soup kitchens and then it will be the workhouse.

Butterfly_Brain

That will be interesting, seeing as so many of the forces and police have been made redundant or are fighting a war that we should never have been involved in that has cost hundreds of lives and billions of pounds of tax payers money.
Cameron condemns the Syrians, Saudis,etc for their breaches of human rights, and yet he runs rough shod over ours, hypocrite is too good a word for him.
We have been living in a fauxmocracy for years and this vile and vindictive unelected government ( Don't forget they had to form a coalition because not one of the parties had enough votes and Clegg the Jonah tipped the balance to the Tories) is likely to tip this country into anarchy and riots next year. Not that Labour are any better, they are all pseudo Tories. For a party that is supposed to represent the working man Millipede is very quiet, or has been heard backing the Tory cuts to benefits. Oh yes our beloved Labour party started the vilification of the sick and disabled so I will never ever vote for them again either, so I have either UKIP or BNP to choose from....Now what a choice that is .

Off my soap box now

valk_scot

I remember being a student in Sunderland in 1984 when the last big miners strikes took place, there were no food banks that I remember but folk were collecting food donations outside the supermarkets for aid to the strikers families. We students were pretty hard up (not as hard as now though!) but we still all managed a couple of tims and packets for the collections. I remember the riots too, and the marches. It was a very difficult time and that was under a Tory goverment too.

dragonette

Heard a programme on radio 4 yest "thiings we've forgotten to remember" about the Hunger marches in the twenties and thirties, all bigger than the Jarrow crusade and some violently suppressed. Truly symptomatic of an elite who had probably never seen or spoken to anyone less priviledged than their butler. The top universities etc are more mixed thasn they were at that time so I doubt the current elite have that excuse.

Ironically it was presented by Michael Portillo (though as the son of Spanish civil war refugees maybe he's a lil more aware than some of the current lot).

I do believe in personal responsibility and self determination etc but can barely say it as its now assumed I'd leave people to starve! Not true. Just wish we would actually teach people how to look after themselves and their family, everyone here seems to information to share so why can't we teach it in schools rather than how to market food technology?!? I was unimpressed by Home Economics...