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Provisional licence with points

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  • Sgt_Pepper_2
    Sgt_Pepper_2 Posts: 3,644 Forumite
    You would be disqualified from holding or obtaining a licence, but if caught driving, the offence would be driving whilst disqualified - contrary to s.103 (1) (b), Road Traffic Act 1988. So in effect you would be banned from driving.

    Have a read of the charge.;)
  • Rover_Driver
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    If you are disqualified from holding or obtaining a licence you cannot drive a motor vehicle on a road either, (s.103 (1)(b) as above).
    Although the wording of the charge may not be 'driving whilst disqualified', you are still effectively banned because you are not allowed to drive a motor vehicle on a road whilst disqualified.
  • Sgt_Pepper_2
    Sgt_Pepper_2 Posts: 3,644 Forumite
    If you are disqualified from holding or obtaining a licence you cannot drive a motor vehicle on a road either, (s.103 (1)(b) as above).
    Although the wording of the charge may not be 'driving whilst disqualified', you are still effectively banned because you are not allowed to drive a motor vehicle on a road whilst disqualified.

    I know, which is what I said. You are effectively driving without a licence.
  • Rover_Driver
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    You would effectively be driving without a licence and whilst disqualified, so two offences.
  • Sgt_Pepper_2
    Sgt_Pepper_2 Posts: 3,644 Forumite
    You would effectively be driving without a licence and whilst disqualified, so two offences.

    Except the offence of no licence no longer exists.
  • Rover_Driver
    Rover_Driver Posts: 1,522 Forumite
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    Sgt_Pepper wrote: »
    Except the offence of no licence no longer exists.

    It's now 'driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence', but as the penalty for driving whilst disqualified is higher, it appears to be the more serious offence.
  • Sgt_Pepper_2
    Sgt_Pepper_2 Posts: 3,644 Forumite
    It's now 'driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence', but as the penalty for driving whilst disqualified is higher, it appears to be the more serious offence.

    You're giving google some stick tonight.
  • Rover_Driver
    Rover_Driver Posts: 1,522 Forumite
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    Local knowledge.
  • Sgt_Pepper_2
    Sgt_Pepper_2 Posts: 3,644 Forumite
    Local knowledge.

    May we ask from where?
  • Rover_Driver
    Rover_Driver Posts: 1,522 Forumite
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    Interest in the Road Traffic Act 1988, Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988, and posts in other forums about the incorrect of charging motorists with 'driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence' rather than a specific offence. For example: failing to renew a photo licence, which is contrary to s.99 (5) RTA 1988 - I have read of some who have have been wrongly told that because their photo had expired, their licence was not valid and they were convicted of DOIA - which is wrong.
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