Trying for a Baby Part 8

bigzippy

Congratulations Big Bird

Sorry to hear your crappy news MrsJ

abis21 wrote: »

They will try to correct your tubes, just next month.

They're not operating to try and correct my tubes. Apparently the only chance my tubes will ever be clear is if they were always clear and were just spasming with the pain of the HSG - only I didn't feel any pain and I was given IV antispasmodic during the HSG test. My tubes - barring a literal miracle - will not get cleared. [ETA: Apparently if there's any adhesions or issues with the tubes, they'll clamp them when IVF begins anyway, because of the risk of ectopic] They're checking for the source of the problem, whether there's anything else affected by the same problem, the health of my womb etc, to see if it's suitable for IVF.

If they find evidence of endometriosis that might help to some degree with my bleeding though, yes. I'm currently on the progesterone for it right now, but my FS did say I could take something else to help with the bleeding, but in the faff of arranging the surgery forgot to actually prescribe it so I'll see my GP next week for it.:cool:

As for the weight, I have to continue losing. I'm about 24lbs away from being able to go on the 18week waiting list. They will not consider putting me on the list before that time. They're stringent about their rules for Assisted Conception on the NHS. There's a whole barrage of tests and questionnaire of things that you have to "pass" to be referred for it. You're right in that I do have conditions, and swimming is the best/only exercise I can do, but it's also a problem in itself as it's a challenge to my already ailing immune system, so I can only go when I'm already healthy - which atm I'm not. My system (like most) is affected by stress and the more activity I do the more ill I am, too. Vicious cycle I haven't recovered from all the physical, emotional and mental stresses of the MIL dying/death situation yet either, so any exercise right now is actually detrimental and exacerbates the situation - especially with the weather turning and bringing it's own challenges.:cool:


Thanks for all your messages of support ladies. In time, this won't be so raw, and although I'm confident me and DH will get through it together, in the meantime it just plain sucks.

*back to Barren Corner *

TeamLowe

BigZ I was reading my local IVF criteria (mainly for the weight one as it is a concern for me) and it mentioned something about if your weight was coming down they'd put you on a 'watchful waiting' list- is this what they're doing with you? was wondering what they meant by it. 18 weeks seems like aaaaages too but then again if it's successful you'll be waiting double that to you have your baby in your arms lol

how is your weightloss progress btw, have you slowed down/pleatued at all now you're near the end? i think it's amazing you've done so well with the little exercise you can do, as i always find no matter what i eat it's only exercise that makes the difference
only lost about 5lbs in four months but i have lost about two dress sizes but obviously the NHS only cares about one thing- the dreaded BMI calculation x x

QQuaver

Bigzippy, don't hide in the b corner (((hugs))).
How long do you think it will take to lose 24lbs?

I gained 2 pounds while on my holiday too:( It took a month to lose this and a week to pile it back on again:(

No more junk food/sweets/cakes/crisps until the end of September for me:o

bigzippy

TeamLowe wrote: »

BigZ I was reading my local IVF criteria (mainly for the weight one as it is a concern for me) and it mentioned something about if your weight was coming down they'd put you on a 'watchful waiting' list- is this what they're doing with you? was wondering what they meant by it. 18 weeks seems like aaaaages too but then again if it's successful you'll be waiting double that to you have your baby in your arms lol

I might be wrong but I think that the "watchful waiting" list is when you're ok to be referred once you're at the right weight - so you have to contact them when you get to the right weight and then they'll put you on the list. That's what they're going to do with me apparently. 18wks I can cope with, if it was starting now I'm fairly confident I could lose the weight by then, but obviously it's all funding and there's no guarantees etc. I understand why they wait til you're the right weight - and let's face it if you keep it up for the 18wks/lose more then it's more confirmation of your commitment to the weightloss etc, but still, it's frustrating to be on this side of Apparently they count FET (Frozen Embryo Transfer) as a cycle of IVF too, so if I did get any frosties from the first egg collection (through my belly, as they can't go through my tubes _pale_), they would be the only two chances I got :cool: I was hoping FET wouldn't count :cool: But I digress!

how is your weightloss progress btw, have you slowed down/pleatued at all now you're near the end? i think it's amazing you've done so well with the little exercise you can do, as i always find no matter what i eat it's only exercise that makes the difference
only lost about 5lbs in four months but i have lost about two dress sizes but obviously the NHS only cares about one thing- the dreaded BMI calculation x x

It generally plateaus when I get demotivated. I don't put weight on, cos apparently I've changed my habits enough that I don't have to keep my eye on it all the time, but I don't lose either. I need to be good from now til Christmas to reach my target (which I'd thankfully set before the whole IVF thing was confirmed - I wanted to lose the rest of the weight I needed to for IVF by Christmas).

Apparently you have to have a deficit of 3500 calories to lose 1lb of fat. It's bizarre to think how much of a deficit I must've created to lose 61lbs! It's even scarier to think how much I must've been overeating to get as big as I did When I'm strict I can lose 1-2lbs a week, so I'm hoping I'll've done it by Christmas. Might take a little longer than that though. We shall see.

It is mental though, how much smaller I am now than I was, but they still want me to lose so much more... I already look completely different - even I can see it! I have no idea what I'll look like when it's done... I think I'm already the smallest (or close to) that I've ever been as an adult


Oh and while I'm on - I feel the same about my DH For all my (physical) issues and limitations, and barrenness, I know he would still chose me. He chose me knowing how unwell I was in the first place, and I think there's something special about that. He makes me laugh too If he's all I get in life, then I'm already lucky

twigglet35

Hi everyone,

Hope everyone is well and BD loads x

QQ can u take me off the list now please my TTC#3 has come to a end.

OH started not wanting to know when i was OV and then the BD dryed up so i have stoped now

But very good luck to everyone and im wishing everyone a very sticky bean xxx

QQuaver

bigzippy wrote: »

Apparently they count FET (Frozen Embryo Transfer) as a cycle of IVF too, so if I did get any frosties from the first egg collection (through my belly, as they can't go through my tubes _pale_), they would be the only two chances I got :cool: I was hoping FET wouldn't count :cool: But I digress!

Say, if you freeze 10 embryos, you'd get one FET for free, but wouldn't the other 9FETs be a lot cheaper than IVF?

I need to be good from now til Christmas to reach my target (which I'd thankfully set before the whole IVF thing was confirmed - I wanted to lose the rest of the weight I needed to for IVF by Christmas).

Good luck!:j
I'll try to lose 6lbs (the weight I was when I got pg) by Christmas then:cool:

I think I'm already the smallest (or close to) that I've ever been as an adult

I was 12lbs lighter when I was 18...

Oh and while I'm on - I feel the same about my DH For all my (physical) issues and limitations, and barrenness, I know he would still chose me. He chose me knowing how unwell I was in the first place, and I think there's something special about that. He makes me laugh too If he's all I get in life, then I'm already lucky

Awww... :happyhear

twigglet35 wrote: »

QQ can u take me off the list now please my TTC#3 has come to a end.

OH started not wanting to know when i was OV and then the BD dryed up so i have stoped now

(((Hugs))):( Some men hates to BD for making babies. Are you sure he doesn't want the baby either?

good_vibes

Hi all
Again more great news Grats BB, lovely BFP made my day smile even more.
BZ don't go to that corner *hugs* If your doing well on the weight loss and keep up the good vibes
LOL liliymay, made sure you rest a bit too
Going to Dublin QQ, would love to say for a dirty couple of days, date hover over my AF start dates. But am not hold life etc about things like that. Need to relax, I work so hard not to.
Booked my Gp appointment for start of Oct for a chat. Hoping I don't need it. Wounldn't bother but my age (will be very nearly 36 then) and having no family before bothers me a bit.

bigzippy

QQuaver wrote: »

Say, if you freeze 10 embryos, you'd get one FET for free, but wouldn't the other 9FETs be a lot cheaper than IVF?

I'm confused what the question is
I hoped that on the NHS the initial EC, fertilisation and ET would count as one and that if any embroyos were frozen, I could get those transferred back counting as the same funded IVF cycle. And then if they didn't work have another round, iyswim? Precisely because I know that the FET would be cheaper than the full shebang. :col: But apparently not

I do want to know what they would do with any frosties if I did get unbelievably lucky on the first (or second) round with any frosties left over. Would they store them for me to pay privately to have transferred back for a sibling try, later on, or destroy them, or what??:huh: (I know you can't really answer that - I'm just thinking out loud - I have to remember to ask next time I go though )

Oh and to whoever asked about us saving up for private IVF treatment (I can't remember who it was now? ) we have some inheritance from MIL's estate that may be able to pay for 2 rounds of private treatment. After that we're cleaned out. I did discuss with DH whether it would be something we'd consider going into debt for though, and he said yes, so we'll see...

Good luck!:j
I'll try to lose 6lbs (the weight I was when I got pg) by Christmas then:cool:

Good luck :T

I was 12lbs lighter when I was 18...

I didn't weigh back then, I was a poor student that had no time for scales but going on dress/clothes size I must be quite close...


Sorry to hear that Twigglet, good luck with whatever you do/have decide(d) as a couple/family.

QQuaver

good_vibes wrote: »

Going to Dublin QQ, would love to say for a dirty couple of days, date hover over my AF start dates.

Lovely:happyhear Hope AF won't arrive:cool:

Booked my Gp appointment for start of Oct for a chat. Hoping I don't need it. Wounldn't bother but my age (will be very nearly 36 then) and having no family before bothers me a bit.

Fingers crossed you are one of those lucky ones who conceive as soon as they book the appt:cool:

Metranil_Vavin

Massive congrats BB, I do love a digi-pic!

Hugs for Zippy..as Q says, don't hide in the corner..you're loved way too much here x

I'm back from the paralympics. Had a great day, it's totally awe inspiring how these athletes compete, and make the very best of what they have rather than focusing on what they haven't..truely inspirational.

Was hoping we may get a quickie in before we have to pick DS up from the CM (so less than an hour), but not sure it will happen now. Came home to find the cat had been sick twice on the carpet and done a big poo in her litter tray..bit of a passion killa all that! :rotfl:

Also, OH gets so stressed if things don't work out BD-wise, and last night was a total disaster

I'm worried that it's going to happen again, and we are going to miss my ov this month. There's too much pressure I know, but how on earth can you get pg if you don't BD around the right time?? Auuugh!