Son left education- losing large percentage tax credits

Errata

In the light of Poet's post, and it's content doesn't surprise me, how seriously should young people's claims of bullying in the workplace be taken?

Hang_Tight_Harry

bestpud wrote: »

We got that many because parents have pandered to them, the education system has pandered to them and, sadly, we have far too many teens with a completely unrealistic view of the real world and their own ability.

Constant praise and being told they are wonderful has done them no good whatsoever.

Soo, lazy kids who think the world owes them a living (an interesting and well paid one at that) and insipid parents who tiptoe around them for fear of making them mentally ill = a recipe for disaster!

You all need a kick up the back side and I'm glad this government have decided to do just that!

Agree with this. My son is currently working part time retail (cashier). This is short term, taken in order to further his long term goals. He's not on much more than JSA but he is willing to get off his butt and work. Kudos to him.

Poppie68

Hang_Tight_Harry wrote: »

Agree with this. My son is currently working part time retail (cashier). This is short term, taken in order to further his long term goals. He's not on much more than JSA but he is willing to get off his butt and work. Kudos to him.

Exactly..One of my girls left college and was lucky to get the job she wanted straight away, she is now 20 and is a dental nurse. The other has been working as a waitress since being in school and a month a go got the job she has been searching for in a solicitors office. It took her 4 years but she got there in the end. She had no experience but her work record helped to acheive what she wanted, a good job with training leading to better things.

Dunroamin

Errata wrote: »

In the light of Poet's post, and it's content doesn't surprise me, how seriously should young people's claims of bullying in the workplace be taken?

It often seems that more and more young people equate being told what to do (by anyone) as bullying.

Confuseddot

My newphew, about 6.2 13 stone althetic build, was told by the carears service at school that he should follow his dreams and they would come true. He wanted to be a jockey ... many arguments later he eventually was made to see that we weren't trying to ruin his life it just wasn't possible for him to be a jockey.
Yes children need to be encouraged but being sensible and teaching about saving for things and no you are not entitled to anything. Work hard and you may get what you want but don't expect it handed to you on a plate.

bestpud

Errata wrote: »

In the light of Poet's post, and it's content doesn't surprise me, how seriously should young people's claims of bullying in the workplace be taken?

I've pondered that question myself many times!

I know how workplace bullying can destroy people, having watched my husband reduced to a quivering wreck by it, but I know of one case where a young worker claimed he was bullied when he couldn't do the job.

This lad has parents who bail him out - you know the type - they were always at his school threatening to sue teachers if they gave him detentions etc.

He went to work in a engineering firm and the people training him found him completely unable to understand the job or follow instructions.

They don't know to this day whether he is just not cut out for that type of work (as in he is a bit dim!) or he was being deliberately obstinate. Anyway, they tried for several months but he was becoming a liability so they said he'd have to leave.

Mummy and daddy were straight to a solicitor and a bullying claim was put in.

That was a few years ago. Last I heard of him, he was still living with his parents, unemployed and had just overturned his brand new car in a residential street with a speed limit of 30 miles an hour. I drive past there regularly and cannot for the life of me see how anyone could overturn a car there, but he did!

Luckily he didn't kill anyone!

Mummy and daddy have replaced his car with another brand new one, of course! (Rolls eyes)

ALIBOBSY

skintmacflint wrote: »

And what a sad indictment of a benefit system so generous which over the years has encouraged people to have kids they can't financially support, as well as encouraging private industries to pay their workers buttons and private landlords to charge the earth for inferior housing.

The reality is that although for a small number of families kids may well be seen as a way to keep the benefits rolling in the numbers of families with more than 2 kids isn't shooting up.

The ONS says in 2012 only 14 % of families with children have 3 or more, and thats ALL families. So its not that huge an issue. But I agree for a very small group it may be an incentive to have that "extra" child.

Ali x

pipkin71

dktreesea wrote: »

Depends on the kind of courses. Try getting a place at art college, or in hairdressing or dance. For every place available on one of the design courses at the college near us, they had 7 applicants for every place. And that's only counting the ones who had the appropriate qualifications from school to apply.

This is true, from recent experience.

My daughter has just been offered a place on a level 3 art course. There were 20 places on offer but over 40 applicants for the course.

I don't know if the college will set up another class, since there was a lot of interest, or if those who did not secure a place on this course will have to find something else to do, or even if they will be on the waiting list to cover those who decide not to take the place, but that must be a very uncertain time for them over the next few months.

ab.da54

ALIBOBSY wrote: »

The reality is that although for a small number of families kids may well be seen as a way to keep the benefits rolling in the numbers of families with more than 2 kids isn't shooting up.

The ONS says in 2012 only 14 % of families with children have 3 or more, and thats ALL families. So its not that huge an issue. But I agree for a very small group it may be an incentive to have that "extra" child.

Ali x

This needs to be addressed and the benefit system changed so that there is no longer an incentive to have another child, however small an issue it is.

Dunroamin

pipkin71 wrote: »

This is true, from recent experience.

My daughter has just been offered a place on a level 3 art course. There were 20 places on offer but over 40 applicants for the course.

I don't know if the college will set up another class, since there was a lot of interest, or if those who did not secure a place on this course will have to find something else to do, or even if they will be on the waiting list to cover those who decide not to take the place, but that must be a very uncertain time for them over the next few months.

But you don't really want to offer places in art/dance/drama to everyone who's interested because only the most talented and most motivated have the slightest chance of going into this area; it has to be quite selective.