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Claiming against Tefal's non-stick 'lifetime guarantee'

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  • taxiphil
    taxiphil Posts: 1,980 Forumite
    This case is a good illustration of the way companies use words like "guarantee" as vacuous and hollow marketing-speak, particularly when the so-called "guarantee" isn't underpinned by any published terms and conditions, or details of how to submit a claim.

    The same thing is prevalent with the term "price promise" which now seems to appear on big posters all over the place, e.g. B&Q, Carpet Right, Kwik Fit, Harveys Furniture.

    Again, it's meaningless marketing guff.

    Try actually making a claim under the "promise" and the staff will look at you like you've just landed from another planet.

    These phrases are just intended as subliminal marketing messages - people read them and seem to think "well they're obviously the best quality / the cheapest or they wouldn't be making a promise like that."
  • meer53
    meer53 Posts: 10,217 Forumite
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    The pans i have aren't sold in shops, they're sold by independant agents and you buy them after seeing them in use.

    I wasn't pressurised into buying them as it was my brother who was the independant agent at the time. The pans cost me over £300 (5 pans) which was a huge amount 29 years ago but i haven't had to buy another pan since so to me they were value for money. They still look like new.
  • barbiedoll
    barbiedoll Posts: 5,328 Forumite
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    I've got a set of the french saucepans which I've had for almost 20 years....I got 3 pans for just under £100 and I got the casserole dish in Safeways in their closing down sale, for a tenner! :D

    I've had expensive frying pans over the years, Tefal included and now I usually buy a "value" one for less than £3 from my local supermarket. They last just as long as the more expensive ones (around 2 years in my house) and I don't have to worry if I accidentally use a fork when I'm cooking my cheese omelette.

    Tefal?
    Tefail more like!
    "I may be many things but not being indiscreet isn't one of them"
  • roddydogs
    roddydogs Posts: 7,479 Forumite
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    So how come mine at least 6 years old and still fine? if you follow the instructions, no problem. In fact the ones i gave away before them were still perfect, I only bough new ones because the outside had become discouloured.
    Trying to clean non non stick pans after, say scrambled egg is a nightmare.
  • time2deal
    time2deal Posts: 2,099 Forumite
    Just as an aside - My Mum got a le creuset frying pan for her wedding in 1976 in Ireland.

    Sometime in the early 90's it developed a problem (I don't know what) so she got in touch with Le Creuset in Australia, and they replaced with the latest equivalent. I was so impressed I must have told 10 people this story, who have since bought Le Creuset products.

    Just saying! Honoring guarantees may have an immediate cost, but a long term benefit.
  • meer53
    meer53 Posts: 10,217 Forumite
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    time2deal wrote: »
    Just as an aside - My Mum got a le creuset frying pan for her wedding in 1976 in Ireland.

    Sometime in the early 90's it developed a problem (I don't know what) so she got in touch with Le Creuset in Australia, and they replaced with the latest equivalent. I was so impressed I must have told 10 people this story, who have since bought Le Creuset products.

    Just saying! Honoring guarantees may have an immediate cost, but a long term benefit.

    You obviously missed the thread where a poster was having problems with non stick Le Creuset pans ! The non stick coating isn't covered under their guarantee !
  • Last year we had problems with our large eight year old Tefal frying pan (with glass lid) - the non stick surface was wearing through. It did get used very regularly - about two or three times a week.

    I contacted Tefal about this and they asked me to e mail them some photographs. They said that from looking at the photographs of the pan it was showing signs of heat damage i.e. had been used on two high a gas flame and was not therefore covered by their lifetime guarantee.

    I disputed this and also confirmed that we had never used anything but plastic/wooden utensils with the pan. Tefal then asked me to send the pan back to them for investigation.

    A week later a brand new pan arrived - no covering letter or anything just a replacement new pan.

    Happy outcome!
  • BaldacchinoR
    BaldacchinoR Posts: 135 Forumite
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    edited 20 August 2012 at 9:18PM
    I tried to claim under Tefal's non-stick lifetime guarantee. They rejected it because of the pans' external condition!!!! What does that have to do with the non-stick interior coating failing? They were about 8 years old by then.

    There would be no need to prove a case after just 6 months use, as someone claimed above, when a lifetime guarantee has been given. What is a 'lifetime'? If the non-stick coating starts to fail you can argue the pans' lifetime has expired. In which case, you have no claim at that point! Which would mean the guarantee is useless!

    I think Tefal are useless in this respect and simply do not buy their products.

    I bought a cheap set of 3 non-stick pans + a frypan (also non-stick) for £10 about 6 years ago at a market and only the frypan has lost some of its non-stick properties.
  • themull1
    themull1 Posts: 4,299 Forumite
    My mam bought me a set of pans from QVC with a lifetime guarantee about 7 years ago, the non stick is coming off, i rang QVC, someone picked up the pans, and my mam got a full refund.
  • There would be no need to prove a case after just 6 months use, as someone claimed above, when a lifetime guarantee has been given. What is a 'lifetime'? If the non-stick coating starts to fail you can argue the pans' lifetime has expired. In which case, you have no claim at that point! Which would mean the guarantee is useless!

    I think Tefal are useless in this respect and simply do not buy their products.

    I bought a cheap set of 3 non-stick pans + a frypan (also non-stick) for £10 about 6 years ago at a market and only the frypan has lost some of its non-stick properties.

    I agree BaldacchinoR - to finish this thread off, sadly, I've given up, life is too short! 'Customer service' ignore every email/call. I can't find any details anywhere about who the person is at the next level up - they don't even publicise who the MD of Tefal UK is, at least I can't find their name, even in the annual reports. When you call the HO, no info on anyone is available. It is really quite bizarre that such a large company keeps the names of senior employees so hidden. I wonder why? So that they can hide from the customers complaining about substandard products?

    Having a lifetime guarantee to me means as long as the pan holds food and can be put on a stove to cook. No question. And if they do question that then the guarantee is worthless (as long as you can see the pan hasn't been abused).

    So, I will never buy any Tefal product again. I have learnt that their customer service is appalling to the point they may as well not have the department & that their products are substandard and overpriced.

    In fact I had a look at a Which? survey on saucepans and they rated Prestige as the Best Buy closely followed by Asda, Tesco & Morrisson's non-stick saucepans at £7 (all made by the same manufacturer). So, that's where I'm headed for a replacement!

    Rant over. Thank you!
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