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independent appeals from October - Question

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  • BASFORDLAD
    BASFORDLAD Posts: 2,418 Forumite
    edited 9 August 2012 at 12:07PM
    alison_g wrote: »
    Of course if you knowingly gave a false name and address this this would be an offence under s2 and possibly s3 of the Fraud Act 2006.
    Is it really worth lying over a parking ticket and comitting a criminal act ?

    No definately not

    It was a criminal offence then it wouldnt be done. Would need checking from some one qualified before being done.

    Obviously not going to recommend people doing this if it is against the law
    For everthing else there's mastercard.
    For clampers there's Barclaycard.
  • alison_g wrote: »
    You are incorrect.
    If a person names another in order to avoid payment of a charge then it is totally covered by the Fraud Act.
    There clearly is an obligation to give correct details, where do you come that conslusion.
    You are clearly submitting a document which you know contains false details in order to avoid liability covered in statute.
    To say it is nonsense and lead people up the path like that is very dangerous.
    I would urge anyone caution before taking your advice and being dishonest.

    Utter rubbish from someone who clearly has a vested interest in scaring people. The issue of whether to make the giving of correct details a criminal matter was discussed during drafting of the Bill, as is clear from Hansard, and was dismissed. In addition as has already been made clear an invoice could only be enforcable if there is a valid contract and that will not be so in the vast majority of cases. And to correct your misleading spin I am not advising anyone to provide misleading details, just making the point that there is no sanction if they do.
  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    edited 9 August 2012 at 1:32PM
    Oh that's really rich.

    Someone with whom I have no contract sends me a speculative invoice, saying that I don't have to pay it if I nominate someone else to pay it - and if I lie to them I'm committing fraud!!!

    ROTFLMAO!

    News for you alison_g: NOBODY has to pay the invoice!!!

    Incidentally, you still haven't answered my question from a few days ago: how exactly would a landowner authorise a PPC to make an offer to park on the landowner's property (other than as the landowner's agent)? Do please tell us what the wording in the contract between the landowner and PPC would actually say. We'd all love to know!
    Je suis Charlie.
  • Nice to see Perky getting in touch with his feminine side. michaela_p would have been more appropriate though.

    You know you are dealing with a bunch of pure desperados when they spout this type of nonsense.
  • Stephen_Leak
    Stephen_Leak Posts: 8,762 Forumite
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    bazster wrote: »
    <snip> Do please tell us what the wording in the contract between the landowner and PPC would actually say. We'd all love to know!

    Maybe "she" could send us a copy of "hers". :)
    The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in my life. :)
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