independent appeals from October - Question

BASFORDLAD

bazster wrote: »

I'm not sure what you are getting at. Was person B driving or not? If it's simply a case of having someone say "yeah I was driving but I ain't paying" then the RK can do that, there's no need to involve person B.

What I'm saying is that bargepole's fictitious person ruse will not work if the PPC works out it's a fictitious person, they will just come right back to the RK. Of course, they may never work out that it's a fictitious person, and if they do then the RK could simply nominate another fictitious person!

If Person A wants to get it of thier back and would like to cost PPC £27 then yes involve person B
There is no reason for the PPC to work out its a false person.
Unless their systems could pick up the same driver at two different sites at exactly the same time

But i doubt they are good enough to pick something like that up. If they are then this would be worth remembering

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OTOH, if you have a relative or friend who lives abroad.....

BASFORDLAD

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

OTOH, if you have a relative or friend who lives abroad.....

Yes that would indeed work. Maybe not more so for someone who has just got an invoice on the window and wants it clearing straight away but something through the post a few weeks later.

bazster

So if person A appeals on the grounds that he wasn't the driver, and nominates person B...and person B ignores all correspondence for months...does person A win his appeal? Presumably there will be a time limit of a few days or at most weeks for deciding an appeal? And then when the time comes, person B appeals and nominates person C as the driver...

This is gonna be totally unworkable! And very, very expensive! :rotfl:

bazster

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

OTOH, if you have a relative or friend who lives abroad.....

Easily invented. They're hardly gonna check are they?

BASFORDLAD

bazster wrote: »

So if person A appeals on the grounds that he wasn't the driver, and nominates person B...and person B ignores all correspondence for months...does person A win his appeal? Presumably there will be a time limit of a few days or at most weeks for deciding an appeal? And then when the time comes, person B appeals and nominates person C as the driver...

This is gonna be totally unworkable! And very, very expensive! :rotfl:

i think you have got this slightly wrong

You wouldnt appeal on the basis you wasnt the driver
You would tell the PPC that it was driver B was driving. PPC writes to Driver B and driver b could then appeal to PPC who would decline it and then further appeal to independent appeal service and cost the ppc £27 each time

TrickyWicky

bazster wrote: »

Easily invented. They're hardly gonna check are they?

No they'll just fall back to their right to hold the RK liable instead.

Driver from a derelect address or from abroad won't matter in reality. The PPCs and the government have set us all up - all in the name of 'business'.

I'm sick of this anti-business snobbery.

David Cameron, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

Sheesh David, I wonder why it exists?

bazster

TrickyWicky wrote: »

No they'll just fall back to their right to hold the RK liable instead.

They can't, all the act says is that they can hold the RK liable if they don't know the name and address of the driver. Doesn't say anything about the driver's address being in the UK.

bazster

BASFORDLAD wrote: »

i think you have got this slightly wrong

You wouldnt appeal on the basis you wasnt the driver
You would tell the PPC that it was driver B was driving. PPC writes to Driver B and driver b could then appeal to PPC who would decline it and then further appeal to independent appeal service and cost the ppc £27 each time

Yes I know, but I'm inventing a multiple-appeals scenario costing £27 for each step in the infinite chain...

BASFORDLAD

bazster wrote: »

Yes I know, but I'm inventing a multiple-appeals scenario costing £27 for each step in the infinite chain...

I think it could only be one appeal per invoice