Do I have to give balls back?

MrsE_2

picnic wrote: »

one of the fence's must belong to the neighbour? which one is he going to pay to replace? think I might be tempted to say cant afford to replace the fence at all.. see what they say to that...

were waiting to see who moves in to the empty house next door to us... fingers crossed for nice people...

The other fence (the dog fence) belongs to him. However in this case I can see the dog owners being forced to replace it......

MrsE_2

mrs_sparrow wrote: »

The problem is, you don't actually have to have a fence, do you? There is no legal requirement, it's just something you do so you do not encroach onto someone elses land and to ensure that they do not encraoch onto yours. So matey is not going to replace the fence so the OP needs a temporary fix.

And if the dog is no longer escaping into her's it'll be crapping solely in the neighours. See how quick they are to act then.

As I say, it's all about picking your battles. For, what is, a small amount of money, she can have it sorted and grow some big bushes to hide it (although it sounds like she may already have this). If not then she should plant some Privet as the leaves will be too big to grow though chicken wire and she will not need to trim it on the other side.

Sometimes in life you can make things a little easier for yourself by inconveniencing yourself just a small bit. It's worth it for an easier and quieter life. No you should not have to replace it but if it makes your life less stressful and easier then why not?

However, having the chicken wire also ensures she can see what the boy is up and he'll probably stop doing the things he has been in the privacy of his own garden. Block them in, he'll only do the same things. He is 11 so the metal fence will only have to be up for 5 years (or until he finds girls more interesting!!) and she can save to replace it properly later.

I could do chicken wire & privit hedges, that would keep the dogs out. But I don't think it would be any cheaper than replacing the 8 panels that need replacing. Plus it would be a lot more work for me, with trimming. As I've said I have nearly 150 foot to look after on my other boundary AND front hedges too, I don't really want more hedges.The garden has a load of panels another 10 at least - but they are not in the "foorball" area, they are behind their huge long shed & big fish pond & by their patio, so they haven't been battered.I should have taken photos, I should have nipped it in the bud as soon as it started.My ex husband before he moved out told the man next door he would/was going to replace the fence (for a quite life) hence they went all out to destroy what they could.Husband left & I was left with nearly 50 foot of broken fence. Man next door complained to the council to get them to write to me that fence was dangerous to his kids as it was splintered & had nails & screws sticking out & I needed to replace it. The council actually wrote to me telling me to replace it! I rang them & they agreed that I didn't HAVE to replace it, but I had to remove any thing that could be a danger to his children (Maybe they should stay within their garden.........) Anyway so I removed the broken & battered panels.Now my grandson is toddling & my DD doesn't have a garden, I want him to be able to run around it, without trying to keep him within my boundaries, or getting hit by balls, or stepping in dog poo!

MrsE_2

Mojisola wrote: »

There's absolutely no need to replace the fence with expensive fencing which will only get damaged again.

This sounds just the occasion for a collection of pallets wired to the posts you already have. As mentioned before, tell your neighbour that you won't be able to put up a proper fence until his son stops kicking his footballs against it.

It would be worth getting some recordings of the two of them in case they start escalating things.

I will send a letter & eep a copy that if the new fence gets battered with the football, I shall go to the police.Can I?Would they be interested?

MrsE_2

mrcow wrote: »

Surely if they are damaging your fence like that, they should pay for it to be fixed.

He says the fence fell apart because it was old.Funny how its only the 8 panels in the football area that fell apart.................

MrsE_2

mrs_sparrow wrote: »

He won't get over that fencing as it is too flimsy.

I am not sure what it is you want us to say other than to say you can keep the balls - but they will only get more balls. You want to keep the dog out, the cheap fencing will keep the dog out. That is your main priority IMO.

If the ball comes over and hurts your GS then call the police and have the lad done for assault or something.

We have all given you lots of advice here but I am not actually sure what you want us to say anymore. Even a 6ft fence is not going to stop the balls coming over and if it gets damaged you'll be back to square one.

Here is chicken wire that is 6ft high: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chicken-Rabbit-Wire-Netting-1800mm-x-50mm-x-1-00mm-x-50mtr-/261078371652?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Garden_Structures_Fencing_CV&hash=item3cc97bcd44

It will keep the dog out and the boy cannot climb over it and it will code you less than £60 if you buy the pins as well.

Do you have wooden poles that it can be tacked onto? What posts were holding the other panels in? Wood or concrete?

I wanted to know if I had to throw the balls back to his garden, or could I throw them over the bridal path to be retrieved.The bridal path is a PITA to get too, he would have a long walk to get around & it might discourage him
The posts are wooden, they are still there, they are OK to fix the new panels too. Its only the panels that got kicked to bits.

HappyMJ

MrsE wrote: »

I will send a letter & eep a copy that if the new fence gets battered with the football, I shall go to the police.Can I?Would they be interested?

Not really...It's more of a civil matter.

Personally I wouldn't replace the fence if they clearly damaged it. I'd open any gates on your property so the dog is not contained then call the dog warden as soon as it escapes. They'll soon come to an agreement.

SailorSam

Where i use to live the kid used my fence to play football against and a few panels were broken up. At the time i never went out in the back garden that much 'cos i was working such long hours. When my neighbours decided they wanted a bigger house and were moving the guy asked could i swop the good panels from the other side of my garden with the broken ones on his side 'cos they had people coming to view. He thought i was unreasonable saying No 'cos it all it meant was the panels were broken on the opposite side.

MrsE_2

HappyMJ wrote: »

Not really...It's more of a civil matter.

Personally I wouldn't replace the fence if they clearly damaged it. I'd open any gates on your property so the dog is not contained then call the dog warden as soon as it escapes. They'll soon come to an agreement.

The dog isn't from their garden but their neighbours. The son has damaged that fence too.They are not going to replace the panels, they know the fence is mine & they know the neighbours with the dog are responsible for keeping their dog contained.I have a grandson I would like to let ramble my garden.You know what kids are like, he would head for the gaps, their are 8 x 6 foot panels missing so its a lot of open ground & I don't want to be shouting at him to stay in my garden. Plus their garden has kids stuff & toys in it, he will be drawn to it. Their children are older & know to stay in their garden - except to get the ball back. I just want to block it up now to keep dogs & dog poo out of my garden & my grandson in. I also want to deter him from doing it again, hence the letter of getting the police involved if he damages it again & throwing the ball in the public area to make it a PITA for him to collect, so he starts making an effort not to kick it against my fence & over my fence.

MrsE_2

SailorSam wrote: »

Where i use to live the kid used my fence to play football against and a few panels were broken up. At the time i never went out in the back garden that much 'cos i was working such long hours. When my neighbours decided they wanted a bigger house and were moving the guy asked could i swop the good panels from the other side of my garden with the broken ones on his side 'cos they had people coming to view. He thought i was unreasonable saying No 'cos it all it meant was the panels were broken on the opposite side.

Must have been my neighbours last house :-\
It really does destroy fence panels doesn't it. A leather football is hard & heavy & kicked with force its very damaging.

Leif

MrsE wrote: »

He says the fence fell apart because it was old.Funny how its only the 8 panels in the football area that fell apart.................

If you chat with the police - not a complaint, ask for advice - they can see the state of the fence and take notes. Then if he damages it further, the police will have a record. If you just go to the police later, it is his word against yours. Clearly he is a very self centred person who does not give a damn about you, and expects you to pay for damage caused by his family, and to carry on doing so.

Frankly I think you are letting him treat you like a doormat. It is all very well being nice, but some people will take advantage of you unless you stand up for yourself.