Bindweed, anyone dug down deep?

Leif

bossymoo wrote: »

Ooh great. Really wet here today, but might venture out into the wilderness this weekend with a few strategically placed jars.

Thanks for the help!

What I did was find an old vinegar jar which had a small neck, so as to prevent too much rain getting in, and I tilted it too, and added some bricks to sandwich it in place so it did not fall, or get knocked by passing animals.

DaftyDuck

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

The dilution rate doesn't really come into if you are assuming the sprayer is the cheaper alternative.

Just looked at the instructions on the back of a bottle of Doff Concentrated Glyphosate Weedkiller, (concentrated my bacxkside, it's only 80gm/ltr)

Watering can=60ml/5ltr treats 25sq mtr
Sprayer =100 " " 40 " "

By my quick calc that means the watering can method works at a rate of 2.4 ml per sq mtr and the sprayer requires a rate of 2.5, slightly less economic ;)

Too nerdy by far, just get stronger and treat once rather than !!!!! footing about all year..

Can't believe the swear filter doesn't allow pus!y footing, dear oh dear, we aren't children on here.:mad::A

Ah, but we aren't spraying at the greater solution, we are dunking the rotters in it. More dilute works better, and saves money. No brainer!

cyclonebri1

DaftyDuck wrote: »

Ah, but we aren't spraying at the greater solution, we are dunking the rotters in it. More dilute works better, and saves money. No brainer!

Just blitz the !!!!!!! stuff and stop !!!!y footing about.

My bottom line, hit a massive patch of this stuff that came aggressively out of a privet hedge straight through quality weed suppressant fabric.
Normal stuff failed, the stuff grew faster than it could kill it, gel m ade from standard stuff hit it in days, it has not come back.

At that point I got the hard stuff, I for one am not going to spend 1/2 a season waiting to see if the dumbed down crap that is sold in the sheds will take effect.;)

More dilute works better? :rotfl::rotfl: sorry, not got the patience.

Leif

The hedge bindweed that was 'bottled' looks dead. The hedge bindweed on the neighbours property that I sprayed (naughty naughty) with neat glyphosate solution looks dead. The field bindweed I sprayed is far from dead, due to much less leafage (small leaves, not many of them) perhaps.

Dug a few more square meters this evening, which I have to do as in some places there is more flint than soil, some being 6" across, and I want the flints out so that I can grow veg. Most field bindweed roots do not go down more than 2 foot. I dug a 4m by 4m area a month or two back, piled up in a heap, and new sprouts have grown up through 1 m of soil. It would not surprise me if a sprout from a buried root grew upwards one foot a week in order to reach daylight. It's a real git of a plant this one.

Greendayfan

I also have bindweed coming into my garden from my lazy neighbour who can't be bothered with their garden. It is in my compost bin too, can I still treat this with roundup? Apart from the bindweed, the compost is great and full of worms that i obviously don't want to harm. Would I be better off sifting through the compost bin to remove the bndweed roots and moving it to a better (weed free) part of the garden?

cyclonebri1

Leif wrote: »

The hedge bindweed that was 'bottled' looks dead. The hedge bindweed on the neighbours property that I sprayed (naughty naughty) with neat glyphosate solution looks dead. The field bindweed I sprayed is far from dead, due to much less leafage (small leaves, not many of them) perhaps.

Dug a few more square meters this evening, which I have to do as in some places there is more flint than soil, some being 6" across, and I want the flints out so that I can grow veg. Most field bindweed roots do not go down more than 2 foot. I dug a 4m by 4m area a month or two back, piled up in a heap, and new sprouts have grown up through 1 m of soil. It would not surprise me if a sprout from a buried root grew upwards one foot a week in order to reach daylight. It's a real git of a plant this one.

Try the stuff I said, the instruction give details of how to kill trees with it so........................

Leif

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Try the stuff I said, the instruction give details of how to kill trees with it so........................

Found some field bindweed growing through a recently planted strawberry plant. Spray? I dug up the plant, dug out the weed to 2 foot, and replanted the plant. It'll be back ...

I might have to resort to making a paste from wallpaper paste and glyphosate and painting it on.

demystified

Greendayfan wrote: »

I also have bindweed coming into my garden from my lazy neighbour who can't be bothered with their garden. It is in my compost bin too, can I still treat this with roundup? Apart from the bindweed, the compost is great and full of worms that i obviously don't want to harm. Would I be better off sifting through the compost bin to remove the bndweed roots and moving it to a better (weed free) part of the garden?

It's be fine to spray it's deactivated on contact with soil and it's non toxic. Moving it is overkill IMO.

I had it coming up in the compost heap too I got rid of it because I dug out the entire heap and winter spread it as I do every year - all 5 feet of it. Darn roots went down a good 3 feet!

cyclonebri1

Without totally changing the subject, what's the name of that other weed that is very happy to make it's home in hedges etc?

It's a new weed by my reckoning, never saw it until about 20 years ago. It's the very lightly rooted sticky stuff with hexagonal shoots/stems, but when you eventually trace it to ground level it's a very thin wiry stem. Sticky as in seems to have very fine hairs that means it snags in your clothing. Ends up with little balls as seed heads. My kids used to ball it up and throw it at each other as it stuck to wool etc;);)

DaftyDuck

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Without totally changing the subject, what's the name of that other weed that is very happy to make it's home in hedges etc?

It's a new weed by my reckoning, never saw it until about 20 years ago. It's the very lightly rooted sticky stuff with hexagonal shoots/stems, but when you eventually trace it to ground level it's a very thin wiry stem. Sticky as in seems to have very fine hairs that means it snags in your clothing. Ends up with little balls as seed heads. My kids used to ball it up and throw it at each other as it stuck to wool etc;);)

Cleavers, or Galium aparine.
Try http://earthnotes.tripod.com/cleavers.htm for details. But nothing new about Cleavers.