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UKCPS So called "Parking Fine" - Don't Pay!

I've been reading posts on here for a number of months following my own experience. I wanted to wait until a decent amount of time had elapsed before sharing my story in the hope that other people who are in my position might gain a bit more confidence in following all the excellent advice on here....

In November 2011 I was doing my job (Community Nurse) which on the day in question involved escorting one of my patient's into a local town (in the Yorkshire area). We had always parked in a particular car park facing a row of shops. We parked in our usual spot and went into one of the facing shops, then walked to the local market 50 yards away. We were back in the car within 30 minutes.

On return to the car I found a UKCPS yellow notice stuck to my windscreen stating I was being "charged" a penalty of £75 for "leaving the site" (how creepy they had obviously watched us go in the facing shop and then leave the car park!?). I spoke to some colleagues who advised me to ignore it. I was very worried about doing this and had visions of increasing demands for more and more money, baliffs and court orders. I googed UKCPS and found this forum. I read all the wealth of advice, legal stuff and what I could expect in terms of letters etc and did exactly as most people said.

I got an initial letter saying they had obtained details of the registered keeper (me) of the vehicle and demanding payment. I ignored it. I was rewarded by a second letter a few weeks later, (this time in red) with more 'serious' suggestions of court, baliffs, damaged credit scores etc. Also the amount had increased. I ignored it. A while later I received a letter from the laughably named "Court Proceedings Ltd" (HAHAHAHAAH), stating this was my last chance, and they would accept a reduced rate if I paid immediately, which again I ignored.

This was back in February, and since then I have heard nothing. I did not give them any information (regarding identity of the driver etc, as this apparently means they can't issue any proceedings as they have no way of obtaining info about the driver, only the police etc can do that).

I would just like to say thank you for all the advice on here and to reassure anyone in a similar situation to stick to your guns, don't bother to ring them, don't write to them, just ignore them. They are scammers and will eventually go away!!

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  • SodG24SodG24
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    Thanks - it always helps when people come back and prove the advice is correct.
    All aboard the Gus Bus !
  • trisontanatrisontana Forumite
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    Amongst all the low-life that is PPC land, UKCPS can be counted as the lowest of the low.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • BASFORDLADBASFORDLAD Forumite
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    Yes and run by a slimy bloke called peter haswell
    For everthing else there's mastercard.
    For clampers there's Barclaycard.
  • edited 2 August 2012 at 9:35AM
    cannotfindtheanswercannotfindtheanswer Forumite
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    edited 2 August 2012 at 9:35AM
    Hi,
    Yesterday I parked in a retail park in Leeds and left the car park on foot to return later with some friends. When I returned I had a parking notice charge stuck on my windscreen. The reason was 'leaving site'.
    I understand this is because parking spaces are in high demand and it's to stop non users of the site..I was given the ticket within 10 minutes of leaving but returned to use the facilities later.
    From reading the blogs, it's obvious that I should not pay as it's private land and unenforceable but I am annoyed that the signage was so poor. There were none in the parking bays, only on the entry and exits. When I looked at the sign later it said you were not allowed to leave the site,but it doesn't say how,i.e. on foot, or by car and for how!.Also, the sign reads
    WARNING PRIVATE PROPERTY CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT.
    IF YOU VISIT ELSEWHERE, BEFORE OR AFTER USING THE FACILITIES YOU ARE CONTRACTUALLY AGREEING TO PAY A FEE OF £100 DISCOUNTED TO £60 IF PAID WITHIN 14 DAYS.
    It's a farce! Also, when such a condition is blatently unreasonable, why are the DVLA allowed to sell them my data, which, in itself, is outrageous. This sign is very menacing and uncompromising and some reassurance re my position will be gratefully received.
    Many thanks
  • BASFORDLADBASFORDLAD Forumite
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    Just ignore BUT edit your post so it doesn't show where you parked as the slimy tea boy haswell watches these forums like a hawk
    For everthing else there's mastercard.
    For clampers there's Barclaycard.
  • Coupon-madCoupon-mad
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    ...the sign reads
    WARNING PRIVATE PROPERTY CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT.
    IF YOU VISIT ELSEWHERE, BEFORE OR AFTER USING THE FACILITIES YOU ARE CONTRACTUALLY AGREEING TO PAY A FEE OF £100 DISCOUNTED TO £60 IF PAID WITHIN 14 DAYS.
    It's a farce!

    Also, when such a condition is blatently unreasonable, why are the DVLA allowed to sell them my data, which, in itself, is outrageous. This sign is very menacing and uncompromising and some reassurance re my position will be gratefully received.
    Many thanks




    Doesn't matter what the signs say if you don't see them AND of course UKCPS don't own or have a proprietal interest in the land. So they cannot offer a contract or take action for any alleged trespass.

    You have got your fake PCN at a time just after the Higher Court decision in VCS -v- HMRC. I would read the posts on that by searching the forum and you should see that UKCPS can't really do anything except send you the usual threatograms. IMHO they have no right to pursue the registered keeper of your car, neither under contract or under the tort of trespass.

    I expect you have seen the sticky thread of pics of all the letters, second from the top of this forum board? It really is just a matter of playing snap with the letters.

    Another complaint to the DVLA would be a good idea. We hope they will be snowed under with complaints, it is shocking that they are releasing data to these scam firms who are not even the landowner/occupier; they are just agents with no lawful excuse to get the info, NO 'reasonable cause' at all.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top of this/any page where it says:
    Forum Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • edited 3 August 2012 at 6:19AM
    esmerobboesmerobbo Forumite
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    edited 3 August 2012 at 6:19AM
    "IF YOU VISIT ELSEWHERE, BEFORE OR AFTER USING THE FACILITIES YOU ARE CONTRACTUALLY AGREEING TO PAY A FEE OF £100 DISCOUNTED TO £60 IF PAID WITHIN 14 DAYS"

    That would mean you could never go anywhere again without paying them!:eek:
  • BASFORDLADBASFORDLAD Forumite
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    Well peter isn't the brightest of chaps
    For everthing else there's mastercard.
    For clampers there's Barclaycard.
  • I've received a ticket from ukcps today while in a retail park, and after reading the posts here was wondering if I should ignore it as well. Has anyone else had a similar experience??
    Thanks
  • Efc1lfc0 wrote: »
    I've received a ticket from ukcps today while in a retail park, and after reading the posts here was wondering if I should ignore it as well. Has anyone else had a similar experience??
    Thanks

    Did you actually read anything on this thread, try starting with post #1, I am trying not to be sarcastic here due to you being a newbie, but there is a whole forum with thousands of posts about your situation, please try and read it instead of bumping a thread from the depths

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163
    Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
    They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
    Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?
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