Does Your Child Go To A Proper School Or An Academy?

ViolaLass

thegirlintheattic wrote: »

Maybe you should suggest to this woman she follows the GTP route; I'm surprised the school has not already approached her about this if she is so good and keen to be a teacher. Through that route you get paid whilst you get QTS by working in your school.

Equally, if she wants to do maths and has a degree above a 2:2 then she can get a bursary (up to £20k if you have a first - not a first in maths, just a first at all) plus student loans funding. There's lots of money out there for maths.

GobbledyGook

She has thought about/tried the GTP route. There's something to do with her GCSE's that makes the GTP a problem. I'm not sure what it is. Anyway thanks for the suggestions though. I hope she will go one day. Her own kids are only a couple of years off finishing school so perhaps she'll think about go to do it then.

Janepig

puddy wrote: »

i would never present anything that isnt perfect. i touch type at quite at speed, usually whilst i have an eye on the telly or something else so just type as it comes into my mind without having to stop for this. however work reports are different, its like texting, do you spell everything fully on a text or use abbreviations? i cut things down as short as poss

I'm sure the people who type the reports I have to hand in to Court think they're perfect - they should anyway, because theoretically you should only be signing it off once you feel it's perfect, but as I say, to my eye they are far from it.

A lot lot of it is because a while ago, reports used to be handwritten, then given over to a secretary for typing, so it didn't matter that the author had bad spelling, grammar, etc... the secretary's job was to type it up and neaten, correct, etc... as they went. Of course, that doesn't happen any more, the author will also be the typist, and just because we're all bred to have good touch typing skills now, doesn't mean we've all got the ability to type up a presentable piece of work. And worse it's going to get!

Yes, generally speaking my texts aren't abbreviated, but they're usually pretty short anyway. And I don't post anything on here unless I've read it through once, maybe twice . I really can't stand trying to decipher stuff that would make so much more sense with a bit of punctuation in the right place.

Jx

thegirlintheattic

GobbledyGook wrote: »

She has thought about/tried the GTP route. There's something to do with her GCSE's that makes the GTP a problem. I'm not sure what it is. Anyway thanks for the suggestions though. I hope she will go one day. Her own kids are only a couple of years off finishing school so perhaps she'll think about go to do it then.

Ah, in which case she wouldn't be able to do a PGCE. The GCSE requirements for both are Cs in Maths and English, and C in science (for primary). So she will have to get her GCSEs or equivalent.

ViolaLass

GobbledyGook wrote: »

She has thought about/tried the GTP route. There's something to do with her GCSE's that makes the GTP a problem. I'm not sure what it is. Anyway thanks for the suggestions though. I hope she will go one day. Her own kids are only a couple of years off finishing school so perhaps she'll think about go to do it then.

If the issue is that she doesn't have a C in GCSE maths, then whatever route she wants to take, that's going to be a problem. Easily fixed though.

GobbledyGook

Part of the issue with the spelling and grammar today is that it is not reinforced anywhere near as strongly. In some creative writing sessions children are not picked up on their spelling or punctuation because the point of the excersize is the creativity. Now you don't want to make children who struggle with the basics hate it if they have a good creative brain, but you should (imo) at least show them their errors even if you do not deduct marks for the creative effort.

I think that spelling, punctuation and grammar are things that should be enforced and corrected throughout all lessons, otherwise children think that such things are only important in their English lessons.

Another issue, which will only grow it seems, is the inability to spell or punctuate correctly in younger teachers. Also the over reliance on the computer spell checker to pick up mistakes. I received a note from my younger daughter's teacher that asked us to "Please remind the children not to leave there coats on the benches when its a rain day.". She might have been a qualified teacher, but I was mighty relieved to see her go off on maternity leave. Some of the other parents complained about her, but most were happy with her because she was nice and the kids loved her.

GobbledyGook

thegirlintheattic wrote: »

Ah, in which case she wouldn't be able to do a PGCE. The GCSE requirements for both are Cs in Maths and English, and C in science (for primary). So she will have to get her GCSEs or equivalent.

Now you mention it the science thing sounds familiar. There was talk about becoming a secondary teacher, but she doesn't fancy that.

I'm sure if she wants she could sort it one day. I think she may not want to be a teacher as much as we all thought she should be one iykwim!

Janepig

GobbledyGook wrote: »

Another issue, which will only grow it seems, is the inability to spell or punctuate correctly in younger teachers. Also the over reliance on the computer spell checker to pick up mistakes. I received a note from my younger daughter's teacher that asked us to "Please remind the children not to leave there coats on the benches when its a rain day.". She might have been a qualified teacher, but I was mighty relieved to see her go off on maternity leave. Some of the other parents complained about her, but most were happy with her because she was nice and the kids loved her.

Call me a grammar nazi if you will, but that would make me cry if that was from one of DD or DS's teachers. :eek:

Jx

Mr_Toad

GobbledyGook wrote: »

In some creative writing sessions children are not picked up on their spelling or punctuation because the point of the excersize

Excersize? oops :rotfl:

GobbledyGook

Janepig wrote: »

Call me a grammar nazi if you will, but that would make me cry if that was from one of DD or DS's teachers. :eek:

Jx

I (and a few other parents) complained to the Head. It wasn't an isolated incident with her spelling and grammar either. I have one child who is really academic and one who really struggles. It really concerned me that my struggler could have had a teacher of that standard at some point. The Head reckoned it was just lazy on the teacher's part and that she'd just spell checked it and not really read it back. I wasn't the most popular for pointing out that that wasn't acceptable either :rotfl: