Does Your Child Go To A Proper School Or An Academy?

kelloggs36

I concur with thegirlintheattic - as a teacher if I turned up 5 minutes before the start I would be in a right state!!! I need time to get in the zone and to ensure that everything is ready for the day ahead - even if I have got all the resources ready the night before. Even if I do leave early sometimes, it means that I have to take stuff home - such as marking and getting resources ready for the next day.

As for these holidays, I am meeting a colleague on Tuesday to discuss and prepare for the first couple of weeks of term so that I am fully in control and will be in school probably Wednesday to get my classroom ready - including painting a bookcase!

peachyprice

thegirlintheattic wrote: »

peachyprice - I have never seen a teacher turn up 5 mins before school and leave when the bell goes; yet if you listen to people on MSE it happens all the time. In fact it's much more common, at least round here, for teachers to be in before 7:45 and stay till gone 6. Similarly in these 'holidays' many of my colleagues have already spent several days in school. I myself am planing to spend the week before we go back in school.

Sorry, I think you misunderstood. I wasn't knocking teachers in the least, all the teachers I know/children have had have been wonderful, dedicated, caring professionals. I'm only too well aware how hard they work.

However, OP seems to have a whole different agenda to the majority of teachers.

thegirlintheattic

peachyprice wrote: »

Sorry, I think you misunderstood. I wasn't knocking teachers in the least, all the teachers I know/children have had have been wonderful, dedicated, caring professionals. I'm only too well aware how hard they work.

However, OP seems to have a whole different agenda to the majority of teachers.

Sorry for jumping on your peachy, I just get sick of some people (not you) saying the same thing over and over again.

DecentLivingWage

kelloggs36 wrote: »

I concur with thegirlintheattic - as a teacher if I turned up 5 minutes before the start I would be in a right state!!! I need time to get in the zone and to ensure that everything is ready for the day ahead - even if I have got all the resources ready the night before. Even if I do leave early sometimes, it means that I have to take stuff home - such as marking and getting resources ready for the next day.

As for these holidays, I am meeting a colleague on Tuesday to discuss and prepare for the first couple of weeks of term so that I am fully in control and will be in school probably Wednesday to get my classroom ready - including painting a bookcase!

Yes, excellent lessons are all in the planning - and then of course in the delivery at the right level for each child.

I had a little research and there are suggestions that the 'hiring unqualified teachers' idea is to save money on supply - some people are worried that classroom assistants or 'minders' will be put in to cover those lessons. I feel bad when i make my son go in when he has a cold and then he comes home and tells me his 'proper' teacher wasn't in - even though at the moment they are all qualified - will be worse if he goes all the way in just for a 'minder' all day.

Acc72

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

The fact that 'academies' don't have to have proper qualified teachers isn't the only worry - they can also change the school day/term times. i can see big price rises for parents in this.

Price rises ?

You would possibly get more support if you were honest with your motives.

It sounds as though you are more concerned that you may be required to work longer hours, rather than any possible effect this may have on the education of the child.

Acc72

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

I had a little research and there are suggestions that the 'hiring unqualified teachers' idea is to save money on supply - some people are worried that classroom assistants or 'minders' will be put in to cover those lessons. I feel bad when i make my son go in when he has a cold and then he comes home and tells me his 'proper' teacher wasn't in - even though at the moment they are all qualified - will be worse if he goes all the way in just for a 'minder' all day.

Booooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnngggggggg ......

I hope that your lessons are more inspired.

thegirlintheattic

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

Yes, excellent lessons are all in the planning - and then of course in the delivery at the right level for each child.

I had a little research and there are suggestions that the 'hiring unqualified teachers' idea is to save money on supply - some people are worried that classroom assistants or 'minders' will be put in to cover those lessons. I feel bad when i make my son go in when he has a cold and then he comes home and tells me his 'proper' teacher wasn't in - even though at the moment they are all qualified - will be worse if he goes all the way in just for a 'minder' all day.

Even now they may not be qualified. Most schools hire cover supervisors who are on payroll, are in everyday and take cover lessons. These do not have to be qualified. They will often take classes for the first few days of absence, then after three days schools are meant to get a qualified (QTS) teacher in, although they don't have to be a subject specialist.

Some of these cover supervisors are excellent, others less so. It's worth asking your son if he usually gets the same 'supply' teacher or if he sees the 'supply' teacher around school.

Mr_Toad

DecentLivingWage wrote: »

Yes, excellent lessons are all in the planning - and then of course in the delivery at the right level for each child.

I had a little research and there are suggestions that the 'hiring unqualified teachers' idea is to save money on supply - some people are worried that classroom assistants or 'minders' will be put in to cover those lessons. I feel bad when i make my son go in when he has a cold and then he comes home and tells me his 'proper' teacher wasn't in - even though at the moment they are all qualified - will be worse if he goes all the way in just for a 'minder' all day.

You had a little research or you did a little research? Your badly written post isn't clear, not good for a teacher.

In an earlier post you were off to some research on Primary Academies and profit and said "I'll be back later with my findings"

We're still waiting for that.:(

It's a pity you didn't do your research before posting. Surely as a graduate and qualified teacher you learned that you should do your research before you write not afterwards?

You really are sounding like a broken record. You make all these claims without backing them up with any evidence.

You put your point across poorly and refuse to answer the questions people ask or ignore any post that proffers a different view to the one you hold.

I put some question marks above. Those questions are rhetorical, I really don't expect you to answer as you clearly think you are above such a mundane task and that we aren't worthy of the effort.

What I do expect is that you will ignore them and all the points the others have made and trot out the same old rubbish yet again.

DecentLivingWage

Doesn't matter any more - these second-rate 'academies' and 'free schools' are now under threat and I wouldn't send my child to one as without the backing of the previously treacherous Liberal Democrats (after yesterday's announcement) their future is now very dodgy and risky. Gove will now struggle on every single proposal as the LD s are freer to stick up for children's true rights.I do feel sorry for those parents who will turn up to see new 'Academy' signs outside their schools and still urge them to get right in there and ask loads of the questions above!

As to the research, you would know if you had read the whole thread that I can't post links! Others have helpfully posted information about unqualified teachers and profit-making from our children - but as my research (The Guardian among others) points out - The Only Shareholders Should Be Our Children !

thegirlintheattic

It really gets tiring when you refer to academies as second-rate. Your child neither goes to one nor do you work in one. So I have to question how much experience you actually have of academies or if your opinions are just formed from your 'research' in The Guardian.

The school I work in is a good school that became an academy by choice as the local authority wanted to get rid of a range of vocational subjects that really appeal to and benefit our students. By becoming an academy our school can continue to serve the needs of our students not the government of the day. Most of the recent conversions have been similarly good schools who chose to become academies to make changes for the benefit of the students. Schools don't suddenly become bad because they convert to academy status. Similarly I don't believe that bad schools under LEA control will become good under academy control unless major changes are made.

Whilst I am against the removal of the QTS requirement for reasons I've stated earlier, you do seem to have some sort of ulterior motive and are looking simply for a way to bash academies. Parents of transition students should ask questions of ALL schools not just academies.