Job Fears: I am about to become part of the working poor?

McKneff

ska_lover wrote: »

This bitter tirade gave me a lot of laughs. How ignorant[/QUOTE]

That's the word I was looking for.....................

sniggings

you can look down on him or see the problem he faces.

He is being honest and if we want to fix the welfare problem name calling has never worked.

Why would anyone want to work 35 hours for near enough the same as not working, he is not saying he doesnt want to work but wants to be paid a living wage for a days work, benefits are said to be just enough for living expenses, maybe those with a few kids etc get too much but a single person on £72 a week is hardly excessive, so why should the min wage still only give him the same standard of living as benefits.

sniggings

McKneff wrote: »

I have worked on my days off, because I needed to feed my kids. Ive just retired and spent the last 47 years working my !!!! off, except for 2 years when I had my children, and yes, sometimes on my day off,

I dint mean work all day on your day off, I meant a couple of hours on an evening or something like that.

No offence intended but you say this is your dream job but your not prepared to fight for it, your posts are coming over as very negative. What more motivation do you want. This could be the chance youve been waiting for.

Up and at 'em is what I say
Annie

he is single and still cant make the min wage into a living one, you have kids so no wonder you need to work more, if the min wage is not good for a single guy then we have a big problem.

sniggings

princessdon wrote: »

A prime example of why benefits are too high. It should be a no brainer - not a tough decision.

instead of throwing out a line that we have all heard before how about sticking to the facts here, he is on £72 a week, unless you reduce his rent to less than he needs to rent somewhere how much do you suggest should £72 be reduced by to make this job worth while?

How about paying a decent wage for a days work, £6.08ph is a joke.

sniggings

princessdon wrote: »

You are a wee bit assuming there. Can't speak for OP but I paid for own degree (no loans I paid). I worked since 16 (paid NI and Tax every year). Between OH and myself we pay approx 30K in tax each year, have never once had any benefits - at uni or otherwise (apart from child benefit), never claimed Tax Credits etc.


Ok - Maybe that poster is still paying his loan back - and to be honest there are many many graduates who will never work enough to pay it back, or go on to do more and more study - so I do get where you are coming from

but ...

some are just hardworking, pay more into the system than we will ever take and that is why situations like OP can stick in your throat.

What percentage of the country would be better off on benefits v working? maybe we should all try it - there has to be people with morals and workethic or else the whole govt would be shafted if we all had the same attitude.

Even if someone pays the full fees of £9000 the tax payer is still subsidising most degrees.

sniggings

McKneff wrote: »

Apart from this being total gobbledegook, which I don't understand, no capital letters, bad spelling, no punctuation, etc. etc.

God almighty, what kind of business is it that you do, I hope it doesn't rely on your English education.

Now I understand why you say what you say in earlier posts, it really speaks volumes.

Can anyone understand gobbledegook?

McKneff

sniggings wrote: »

he is single and still cant make the min wage into a living one, you have kids so no wonder you need to work more, if the min wage is not good for a single guy then we have a big problem.

Who says he cant make the minimum wage into a living wage, I could, 40 hours at £6. an hour, easy peasy if you dont smoke, dirnk, internet, use a car, none of which are important or necessary. If its not enough, work more hours, do car boot sales, ebay, etc, extra money is there if you want to earn it.

We didnt have benefits in the 70s. Full stop, if we wanted money, we had to work for it. Full Stop.

sniggings

McKneff wrote: »

Who says he cant make the minimum wage into a living wage, I could, 40 hours at £6. an hour, easy peasy if you dont smoke, dirnk, internet, use a car, none of which are important or necessary. If its not enough, work more hours, do car boot sales, ebay, etc, extra money is there if you want to earn it.

We didnt have benefits in the 70s. Full stop, if we wanted money, we had to work for it. Full Stop.

the living wage is a set figure (google it) making ends meet is not the same as a living wage. He is already doing this on benefits, why would he want to cycle to work to watch an overweight slob walk on a running machine

Treehugged

Taadaa wrote: »

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I've changed my mind. Don't take the job. Let someone who really wants and needs it have the opportunity. You can sit there waiting for your dream job to come along. Good luck - I will wager now you will still be waiting in another two years' time.

This. :cool:

Treehugged

Martynb_ wrote: »

You're rigidly focusing on one thing to the exclusion of other things in order to vent a prejudice. I shall be reasonable. Firstly, I was thinking of whether to take the job or not in order to ensure that I don't mess things up; I would actually like to take the job. If not taking the job to avoid disaster means staying on benefits then so be it. Is this choosing not to work? Yes, but for good reason. If there is a good reason for not accepting the job, then I will not take the job. There is no debate then.

You say it's your dream job but it can't be because if it was, you'd grab it.

You mention negative things like 'disaster' and 'mess things up': those are not the words of someone who, in these scarce times, has found a (paid) dream job. So, it may fall short of what you earn on benefits. If this really is your dream job, you'd take your chances and take it. You'd take it and look for a second job (to supplement the shortfall) until you gain enough work experience to move up.

'Dream jobs' are very hard to come by and you've been given the opportunity to live it, but instead you're looking at the negatives.

If you have to think this long and hard about it, you don't want it. Give them a ring, thank them for their offer but unfortunately, due to recent developments, you are forced with withdraw your application.

I wish I could decline an offer of employment in my dream role. Nice job if you can get it.