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Landlords let themselves into the house

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  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    mchale wrote: »
    OP, if you do that could you come back and we will let you know if the section 21 has been issued correctly :rotfl:

    On a more serious note have a friendly chat with the LL, he/she may not realise they are doing anything wrong, all the advice about changing locks is correct, but trust me as a LL if a tenant of mine changed the locks without informing me I'd want them out ASAP.

    Most problems between LL's & Tenants arise through poor communication on both sides.

    This is the exact attitude that stops people chasing their rights.

    You cant just say 'well if you try and enforce your rights you'll get evicted' as a scare tactic.

    The landlord SHOULD know the rules. They chose to go into business, so as with any other business, they should know what they are doing.
  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    mchale wrote: »
    as a LL if a tenant of mine changed the locks without informing me I'd want them out

    Again ... Why?

    Are you telling us that you want to be able to enter at any time, whether approved by the tenant or not?
  • mchale
    mchale Posts: 1,886 Forumite
    googler wrote: »
    Again ... Why?

    Are you telling us that you want to be able to enter at any time, whether approved by the tenant or not?


    No, I respect my tenants rights, but when you have had a tenant go away on holiday in the winter, leave no heating on and the pipe's freeze in a 1st flooor flat and you as a LL get a phone call from the tenant in the flat below who has come in from work and found her flat flooded, it's not nice.
    And when can not contact the tenant (this happened many yrs ago, before mobiles) you go round, and you can not gain entry because the tenant has put a extra lock on the door maybe then you will see the other side.
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  • suited-aces
    suited-aces Posts: 1,938 Forumite
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    mchale wrote: »
    No, I respect my tenants rights, but when you have had a tenant go away on holiday in the winter, leave no heating on and the pipe's freeze in a 1st flooor flat and you as a LL get a phone call from the tenant in the flat below who has come in from work and found her flat flooded, it's not nice.
    And when can not contact the tenant (this happened many yrs ago, before mobiles) you go round, and you can not gain entry because the tenant has put a extra lock on the door maybe then you will see the other side.

    If you would evict them for changing the lock barrel, you clearly don't. Go away and stop lying.
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  • Werdnal
    Werdnal Posts: 3,780 Forumite
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    mchale wrote: »
    The joke was not aimed at the OP circumstances, it was aimed at the keyboard warriors who are quick to give a opinion without thinking of the outcome of it.

    If you were referring to my earlier comment about the ring and/or money going missing, I assume any sane member here would understand by inclusion of ;) and :rotfl: signified it as being a little tongue in cheek.

    Although realistically, whats to stop a dodgy LL entering and helping themselves to anything they choose whilst a tenant is out. Indeed, I have heard that some home contents policies could refuse to pay out if a tenant tried to claim for theft, and they discovered another party (ie the LL) had keys to their home!
  • Spamfree_2
    Spamfree_2 Posts: 584 Forumite
    I'd change the locks.

    Or if I caught them in there again I'd sneak back out and ring the police saying a burglary was taking place. It's shocking they think they can just waltz in whenever they want!
  • corbyboy
    corbyboy Posts: 1,169 Forumite
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    mchale wrote: »
    Most problems between LL's & Tenants arise through poor communication on both sides.

    This problem is not caused by a lack of communication. It's caused by a landlord who doesn't bother to respect their tenants legal rights.

    Too many landlords love the money coming in but see the tenant as no more than an inconvenience they have to put up with in order to pay their mortgage.
  • RobertoMoir
    RobertoMoir Posts: 3,458 Forumite
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    mchale wrote: »
    but trust me as a LL if a tenant of mine changed the locks without informing me I'd want them out ASAP.

    Why? More importantly: How would you even know? "Emergency" situations like you describe in another post aren't that common.
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  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    Why? More importantly: How would you even know? "Emergency" situations like you describe in another post aren't that common.

    Just based on my experience, if there was a leak or any 'emergency' in another flat I would have ZERO idea who owned it, who rented it, what LA they used etc etc

    It only seems likely in a block where its all owned by the same person (and people know) or in places where people rent out their ld homes and know the neighbours.


    But yeah. A rare occurance indeed.
  • cwcw
    cwcw Posts: 928 Forumite
    mchale wrote: »
    No, I respect my tenants rights, but when you have had a tenant go away on holiday in the winter, leave no heating on and the pipe's freeze in a 1st flooor flat and you as a LL get a phone call from the tenant in the flat below who has come in from work and found her flat flooded, it's not nice.
    And when can not contact the tenant (this happened many yrs ago, before mobiles) you go round, and you can not gain entry because the tenant has put a extra lock on the door maybe then you will see the other side.


    Who is to say OP lives in a flat? Could be a house with no attached neighbours.

    In the highly unlikely event of a severe water leak or fire, whilst the tenant is away on holiday of course, in a true emergency the landlord and/or emergency services would simply break down the door anyway, not wait around for the right keys.

    Which situation do you think is more likely? A house fire/flood while the tenants are away and the emergency services are feeling particularly patient, or a landlord who likes to snoop/steal/spy? (or landlord's partner/letting agent/previous tenant/previous tenant's bit on the side/plumber that fitted the boiler 4 years ago, etc etc, for that matter).

    Me thinks the latter, hence why I would always change the locks as soon as I moved in, without notifying anyone - after all, the only way they would ever find out is if there was a genuine emergency, in which case I'd have bigger things to worry about. Unless of course they tried the locks for some other reason, without notice and whilst I was not around. But that's illegal, so surely not...

    Of course, you'd want to evict someone like me (if you miraculously did find out). Forget paying the rent on time, maintaining the house and garden, cleaning it to a better standard than it was to begin with.... the mere fact of not wanting a stranger to have the keys to my home is surely grounds to evict. :rotfl:

    I'm glad I'm only renting between purchases. I never realised how one sided the tenant-landlord relationship is. My landlord knows everything about me - credit check, references, salary, bank details, etc. I know the surname of my landlord and that's about it, and I'm expected to be happy about them having a key to my home! :rotfl:
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