JSA And Funeral Attendance

Anubis_2

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

But the OP is supposed to be available for, and seeking, work. Hence, JobSEEKERs' Allowance, which is what they are paid while they are out of work.

If they are attending a friend's parent's funeral, they are neither available for work nor seeking work. Unless they take holiday they are asking to be being paid for attending a funeral. This is not allowed. So, if they have no holiday left, they can't go.

If they go shopping, they are neither available for or seeking work.

If they go to the doctors, they are neither available for or seeking work.

If they decide to pain their front room in a day, they are neither available for or seeking work.

If they go for a bath, they are neither available for or seeking work.

If they fall and break their leg and go to A and E, they are neither available for or seeking work.

People on JSA cannot look for work every single minute of every single day, that is just ridiculous. A day is not needed for a funeral either, 4 hours tops.

dookar

Anubis wrote: »

If they go shopping, they are neither available for or seeking work.

If they go to the doctors, they are neither available for or seeking work.

Well, unless they favour a supermarket, GP etc that is 200 miles from home these situations are not really comparable.

Anubis wrote: »

If they decide to pain their front room in a day, they are neither available for or seeking work.

If they go for a bath, they are neither available for or seeking work.

There are no rules about shopping, having a bath or painting your living room, there are rules about absence from your home district

Anubis wrote: »

If they fall and break their leg and go to A and E, they are neither available for or seeking work.

Quite, this is why treating provisions exist. There may or may not be a treat appropriate to the OPs situation, they may or may not have used the maximum treats, if that is the case there is an availability doubt

Anubis wrote: »

People on JSA cannot look for work every single minute of every single day, that is just ridiculous. A day is not needed for a funeral either, 4 hours tops.

Four hours for a 400 hundred mile trip plus a funeral?

dookar

missapril75 wrote: »

It's entirely feasible to meet every obligation in a JSAG in one day and then sit around doing naff all for the rest of the two weeks.

SmartPricePoster wrote: »

There's only so much time in a day someone can spend 'jobseeking' before hitting a dead end or losing their marbles. A few hours spent paying respect to a deceased friend is hardly going to effect any job seeking in the rest of the day or week.

The issue is not jobseeking, it is availability

missapril75

The funny thing is that a couple of weeks ago a mother posted on these threads because she wanted to change her regular signing time to enable her to fit in with a domestic arrangement and the job centre wouldn't let her.

I think, without exception, everyone was responding that she should be allowed to.

Suddenly being unable to attend at the required time, just once, in circumstances not often repeated, is a serious obstacle to job seeking and/or availability.

:huh:

SmartPricePoster

dookar wrote: »

The issue is not jobseeking, it is availability

Availability can be moved to the next day. I was allowed to change my appointment to the next day when I was on JSA. It's not like they spend hours with you. 5 minutes at most.

dookar

SmartPricePoster wrote: »

Availability can be moved to the next day. I was allowed to change my appointment to the next day when I was on JSA. It's not like they spend hours with you. 5 minutes at most.

um, availability as in one of the conditions of entitlement to JSA, a weekly condition. Not availability as in available for a 5 minute appointment.

dookar

missapril75 wrote: »

The funny thing is that a couple of weeks ago a mother posted on these threads because she wanted to change her regular signing time to enable her to fit in with a domestic arrangement and the job centre wouldn't let her.

I think, without exception, everyone was responding that she should be allowed to.

Suddenly being unable to attend at the required time, just once, in circumstances not often repeated, is a serious obstacle to job seeking and/or availability.

:huh:

Pretty sure I've been consistent across the two threads

Dunroamin

missapril75 wrote: »

Suddenly being unable to attend at the required time, just once, in circumstances not often repeated, is a serious obstacle to job seeking and/or availability.

:huh:

I can't remember whether I posted on that but there seems to me to be a big difference between a childcare problem and going to the funeral of someone who isn't a relative. I think that the OP would have received different answers, both on here and from the JCP, if the funeral had been that of her own mother rather than that of a friend's.

sniggings

if you really want to go then I would go and worry about the rest later, just visit a job centre where you are and get evidence etc, if they then want to be sad fookers then thats up to them, worst thing that will happen is you loose a few days payments, more work for them and expense for the tax payer, at least you showed your respects to your friend, I would also send an email to your MP about this, not that will change much but it may and at least they will either change their voting choices or you will make it that much harder for them to carry on voting for these reforms.

sniggings

Dunroamin wrote: »

I can't remember whether I posted on that but there seems to me to be a big difference between a childcare problem and going to the funeral of someone who isn't a relative. I think that the OP would have received different answers, both on here and from the JCP, if the funeral had been that of her own mother rather than that of a friend's.[/QUOTE)

It's a funeral he wants to go to not a rave, to sign a form is hardly a good enough reason to stop the OP from showing his respects.

Do people not realise that they too could be in the same boat one day, too many people think themselves untouchable on this forum, but how many of those that give rude and hurtful advice are not getting any help from the tax payer because they cant support themselves, most I bet on here are getting some help but remember you or one of your family will be treated the same, I just hope you will remember your posts on here!