Vent needed about GP at my surgery

mum2one

ukjoel wrote: »

We used to prescribe cakes, biscuits , and pizzas.

If your on a gluten free diet you can pretty much get your weekly shop on a prescription.

We also used to get prescription requests for paracetamol, asprin etc (from people who didnt pay prescription charges) as its cheaper to cost £10 to the taxpayer than spend their own 23p at Tescos.

That is disguisting, I could get paracetamol etc on prescrition although for me its like taking smarties, but some people do take the biscuit. x

Evilm

HappyMJ wrote: »

I was just thinking that if it's a high fluoride toothpaste then most of them are only recommended for persons aged 10 and over. The GP will not want to take the risk (even though it is miniscule) and leave it up to the dentist to prescribe.

What is more in play is the GP's don't want it coming out of their budget. Hubby's specialist cannot issue medications for non-hospital use and issues a letter to the doctors asking them to issue it. If they can they squirm out of providing it and claim it "isn't possible" to get it on prescription.

I expect the dentists are the same and don't have a budget for regular medication and are only authorised to issue medication for use at their own site.

brook2jack

Actually the problem is regulations are changing and dentists wont be able to just repeat prescribe without actually seeing a patient. So in other words you will have to book and pay if not exempt, for a check up appointment every time you need a prescription.

It's already come in in some areas and will come in all of the rest of England and Wales soon.

Most gps have no problem putting toothpastes and other dental prescriptions on repeat prescription and I think due to change in dental regulations this will increase.

paddyrg

Maybe she was concerned about the bigger picture - if you have super-strength toothpaste because your meds weaken your teeth, maybe she is concerned about your daughter needing it if she is not on the same meds?

Sounds poorly handled either way, hope things improve for you soon

Azari

mum2one wrote: »

That is disguisting, I could get paracetamol etc on prescrition although for me its like taking smarties, but some people do take the biscuit. x

Sometimes doctors are not very bright.

Surgeries often remove items from a repeat prescription (without a review) if they are not ordered for a few months.

At first sight this would seem sensible.

However, what happens in practice is that patients are wise to this and if they are prescribed an elective drug such as a painkiller or topical cream, will keep ordering it, even if they are going through a 'good patch' and don't need it, to ensure that they have access to it if needed.

A friend discovered that her mother had literally dozens of packets of prescription paracetamol. It turned out that she had been prescribed them when they though she had arthritis but it turned out to be a serious vitamin D deficiency. She had been ordering the paracetamol for 5 years just to make sure that they didn't drop off her repeat (as had happened in the past) and she needed them again.

zaksmum

Whatever the opinions of the GP she had no right to speak to you like that and I would most definitely complain.

brook2jack

paddyrg wrote: »

Maybe she was concerned about the bigger picture - if you have super-strength toothpaste because your meds weaken your teeth, maybe she is concerned about your daughter needing it if she is not on the same meds?

Sounds poorly handled either way, hope things improve for you soon

There are no medications that weaken your teeth , once they are all formed at around the age of eight calcium is not lost from teeth.

What can happen with some medication is it dries your mouth out and as saliva has an important function washing away and neutralising acid from sugars it means decay can happen more easily and quickly.

Secondly is eg diabetes is not well controlled someone may have to be drinking eg a fair amount of lucozade to prevent hypos and this may cause decay.

There is however no such thing , apart from a very few , very rare syndromes , as weak teeth.

If the gp had a concern it should be , the same as the dentist, that the most important thing is that op is limiting the number of sugar attacks a day her daughter is having. At 9 , unless she has special needs, disabilities, or medications that may cause a problem , the number one treatment for decay is to limit sugar attack to three a day which would stop the need for high fluoride toothpaste for a child.

I would hope that the dentist has already given op the advice about changes in diet and drinks that her child will have to make before prescribing the toothpaste.

mum2one

paddyrg wrote: »

Maybe she was concerned about the bigger picture - if you have super-strength toothpaste because your meds weaken your teeth, maybe she is concerned about your daughter needing it if she is not on the same meds?

Sounds poorly handled either way, hope things improve for you soon

Luckly my daughter only needs toothpaste, its just she didn't want to prescribe it. I know its for 10yr+ she could have said that, DD only 2mths off 10yrs

mum2one

brook2jack wrote: »

There are no medications that weaken your teeth , once they are all formed at around the age of eight calcium is not lost from teeth.

What can happen with some medication is it dries your mouth out and as saliva has an important function washing away and neutralising acid from sugars it means decay can happen more easily and quickly.

Secondly is eg diabetes is not well controlled someone may have to be drinking eg a fair amount of lucozade to prevent hypos and this may cause decay.

There is however no such thing , apart from a very few , very rare syndromes , as weak teeth.

If the gp had a concern it should be , the same as the dentist, that the most important thing is that op is limiting the number of sugar attacks a day her daughter is having. At 9 , unless she has special needs, disabilities, or medications that may cause a problem , the number one treatment for decay is to limit sugar attack to three a day which would stop the need for high fluoride toothpaste for a child.

I would hope that the dentist has already given op the advice about changes in diet and drinks that her child will have to make before prescribing the toothpaste.

I'm lucky as DD is not diabetic, and shes not really been a sugar addict, sweets are a treat, and if she has squash its very watered down but she drinks water and milk, and cleans her teeth twice a day,.
x

mum2one

To update, I have rang the pratice and asked to speak to the pratice manager, they weren't available, the senoir reception lady took the call then, and suggested that I leave it with her and she will have a quiet word with the GP and I had to realise it was the end of the day! So I politely suggested that she takes my complaint seriously I asked to make a complaint, and that was what I will do, and unless my complaint is taken seriously my next port of call will be the PCT, she suddenly remembered that they do have complaint forms and will send me one! x