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  • pineapple
    pineapple Posts: 6,934 Forumite
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    GreyQueen wrote: »
    I have a rather dubious fondness for Fray B*ntos tinned pies
    Would that be because of the added extras?
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/womans-disgust-as-she-finds-tooth-in-fray-1113705

    :rotfl:
  • GreyQueen
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    edited 24 March 2013 at 2:49PM
    :( That poor lady from Arran. Hoping she makes a good recovery.:(

    Was a bit concerned about this story; if you ignore that talk about "secret plans" (how secret is a plan if it's on a newspaper website FGS?) and scroll down to read the accounts from ex-pat Brits.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2298236/Cyprus-crisis-Military-rescue-60-000-expats-island-faces-financial-meltdown.html

    In my LA, we've been having ex-pat Brits return in financial disarray from continental Europe (chiefly but not exclusively Spain) for some years now. When SHTF people tend to come home to Blighty and have a heckuva shock when they find they can't just leapfrog the housing waiting lists. The amount of people I've heard declare But I'm a British citizen! when told this and they go very quiet when rules about habitual residence are explained. Some of them have lived abroad for 30 years and have no clue about what can be done for them.

    The current Cyprus crisis shows the importance of keeping cash, and the importance of keeping a foot in more than one country, if you have that lifestyle. Part of my family have been living in Northern Europe since the beginning of the twentieth century, still with their British citizenship and bi-lingual, but most of them didn't move fast enough to run to the channel ports (one got out, the one who'd lived thru WW1 in an occupied country and was determined not to have a reprise). The rest were one day too late and spent an uncomfortable WW2 being closely-watched by the Gestapo.

    ;) But not closely-enough as they had a radio they shouldn't have had and were making copies of Brit radio broadcasts to circulate in the neighbourhood. More than one language is useful at times. But more useful if other people don't know you can speak it.;)

    ETA pineapple, my FB pies never contain extras. But I'm jealous; think of the potential for compensation! The most exciting foriegn body I ever discovered was a small piece of plastic packaging inside a shop-bought scone.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)
  • VJsmum
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    I think the comments under that DM article are illuminating and worrying. There are those (seemingly) from ex-pats in Cyprus saying the article is rubbish - CCs are being accepted and ATMs do have cash - and those from people in England making worrying comments about immigrants. To be honest, after the DM ran a highly inaccurate and very skewed article about my home town a few weeks ago I take everything they say with the proverbial pinch of salt (if I didn't before).

    Lafarge says Cyprus should leave the Euro - does anyone know what would happen if they did?
    I wanna be in the room where it happens
  • londonTiger
    londonTiger Posts: 4,903 Forumite
    you should only be thinkin about this if you live somewhere out in the country or live in rural america.

    you tinned foods and generator isn't going to go far in a urban area. if shtf were all !!!!ed in this small country
  • westcoastscot
    westcoastscot Posts: 1,404 Forumite
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    wouldn't of thought it was the most easily digestible tea to have the day after a stomach op would you?
  • 2tonsils
    2tonsils Posts: 915 Forumite
    Things are looking very worrying in Cyprus at the moment and the reports seem to be changing by the minute. Banks are closed both here and in Cyprus till Tuesday as tomorrow is a national holiday. I did hear that a run on the bank ATM's is starting in Spain and Italy as they have plans to ''haircut'' deposits. There is also a campaign going around to get people to stop shopping at Lidl in Greece/Cyprus due to it being German owned.

    There is a lot of highly charged thinking going on but I can't say I blame people for it. It must be a nightmare not knowing what is going on and not knowing when or if you can get access to your own money in the banks. I am not sure any of the bankers or politicians can be trusted any more.

    Glad to hear you are all coping with the weather in the UK, it looked horrendous on the Sky news when I saw the reports. I also saw that there is a health warning out for the severe cold that is coming next week so I hope you all stay warm and well in it.

    VJ'smum mentioned it being difficult to get the blue cannisters of Calor gas in some parts of Europe but they are available all over Greece as most houses use it for cooking . I pay 20 euros for a large cannister but have to carry it home, no delivery service here!

    Have our stocks of food and fuel up here as I am not sure what the next couple of days could bring to us. Tonight there are EU meetings and I feel the **** may well hit the fan in the next week, especially if people start trying to take their money out of the banks as they are in fear of it being taken from them....and I don't mean just in Cyprus either!

    Tomorrow is a big day for parades for independence day throughout Greece and large numbers of police are being brought in to guard the dignitaries who will be watching the parades. Some areas of Athens have been blocked off completely so demonstrators and the public cannot form groups there. Personally I will be staying in the village and not going into town to watch the big parade. We have talked it over and have decided we would be better off staying here unless it was absolutely desperate circumstances. I certainly would not return to the UK and would not expect any kind of help at all, even though we have continued to pay taxes and national insurance to the British government...as well as being ripped off by being charged it here as well. But what do you expect, they are all corrupt. The cavalry will not arrive to save us..they were cancelled a long time ago due to austerity measures
    “The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come. When in a state of security he does not forget the possibility of ruin.” Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC):A
  • 2tonsils
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    The ATM machines at the Bank of Cyprus in Corfu have been empty for at least four days now and they have not been refilled with money since the announcement. People have been begging the pensions providers not to pay the money into the bank at the end of this month as they will lose it if the banks go bust.

    Apparently the IIF has objected to the take over of the Bank by the Greek bank of Pireaus as they do not have the funds to cover the deposits in Cyprus . Since the Pireaus bank was due to be recapitalised soon I wondered how they even made the offer...even though they were buying the banks for one euro each nominal payment. How can they absorb the debts if they are in debt themselves?
    “The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come. When in a state of security he does not forget the possibility of ruin.” Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC):A
  • pineapple
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    We are still badly affected by the snow here. The farmer broke his digger trying to clear the lane yesterday and every able bodied person (apart from the usual suspect) has been out with shovels this afternoon. shovelling away the 3 foot drifts and hacking at the ice underneath. The village above us is still impassable. My decorating dust goggles were perfect protection against the snow and ice being whipped up by the wind! So while they might not be the ideal about town accessory, here in the woolly wilds, I don't think the sheep are that bothered :D
  • pineapple
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    edited 24 March 2013 at 5:35PM
    2tonsils wrote: »
    I am not sure any of the bankers or politicians can be trusted any more.
    You got that bit right. To coin a phrase - they are all in it together!
    As for the Cypriot savers, it struck me, what if you are in the process of moving house or some other deal and uncharacteristically have over 100,000 euros in your account? Wham - possibly a fifth of it gone.
    Whether it gets passed or not, it's not good. Listen to what Theo Paphitis (Dragons Den) has to say about it.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21903601
  • pineapple wrote: »
    We are still badly affected by the snow here. The farmer broke his digger trying to clear the lane yesterday and every able bodied person (apart from the usual suspect) has been out with shovels this afternoon. shovelling away the 3 foot drifts and hacking at the ice underneath. The village above us is still impassable. My decorating dust goggles were perfect protection against the snow and ice being whipped up by the wind! So while they might not be the ideal about town accessory, here in the woolly wilds, I don't think the sheep are that bothered :D

    Sorry to butt in, I'm usually just a lurker on this thread. I just wondered whereabouts in Bronte Country are you Pineapple?
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