Preparedness for when

machasraven

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen.
Do not despair I have a cunning plan - mega prepping type plan! Of which I need your input for this to work
Step 1 - Find an island a large island if unable to find an unpopulated one then steal one off a very rich person(do you think Mr Branson would notice?)
Step 2 - inventory all items needed to establish a successful community on the island.
Step 3 - If plan A does not work then go find a very rich man(unfortunatly this has not worked so far so back to plan 1 for the forseeable future)
So ladies and gentleman anyone in?

mrs-moneypenny

I don't regret the way I voted. I just wish that the government and most political parties weren't so shocked that the majority of the voters were actually not in agreement with them or being bowed down by their refusal to take us and our concerns seriously it is the scaremongering and lack of planning that is causing unrest. The should of had a plan either way the result went.
It is a democratic vote and it should be adhered to, the reason for a lot of the problems is that certain news organisations are magnifying the negatives and things that could go wrong.
The more they keep printing or broadcasting panic the more people will.

Junker is a bully and will not want the uk to leave because when we make a success of it other countries may want to follow suit and he doesn't want to lose his position of power.

Racism is always abhorrent and should not be accepted so it should be being dealt with and stamped out. Sadly there are bigots and racists out there but the majority of people who voted leave do not agree with or condone that mentality.

I voted out to free the uk from the rules, regulations and red tape of the EU

pineapple

machasraven wrote: »

So ladies and gentleman anyone in?

Yes but will they pay my pension there ?
Till we get that, I'm opting for a 24 hr Brexit holiday.
The words, EU, Farage, Cameron, Juncker, Merkel, Boris, Brexit, FTSE 100, immigration, tariff, Article 50 and a host of others will be banned in my presence. As will all media outlets. And if anyone inadvertently mentions anything relating, pineapple will stick her fingers in her ears as in 'La la la I'm not listening'!

GreyQueen

I agree with mrs-moneypenny.

There will be malice from the eurocrats towards the UK during the coming years. That was a given. There will be major see-sawing and wobbles in the markets. That was also a given. None of these things should surprise us, especially since we are only the third trading day since the result of the referendum was announced.

We're watching a freak-out. And a freak show. It isn't the end of the world. It isn't even the end of UK plc (a ridiculous notion if ever there was one).

This afternoon I talked to a friend working for a FTSE 100 company. Their employer's share price is down. They wanted to Remain and they're not happy. If the company does not do well, their annual bonus is likely to be impacted.

Will I be impacted? Will many people in the UK be impacted? This company has long since offshored most of its work to the Indian subcontinent. Will they be impacted? Possibly. It's far too early to tell.

Br@nson trades heavily on a folksy image but he's an expatriate tax dodger and I'd take anything he said about jobs with a pinch of salt. Do we really believe that any entrepreneur is going to throw his toys out of the pram and refuse to expand his business?

I don't. What is happening is that there will be a period of watching and waiting, and no one will want to sign a deal now when there might be a chance of signing a better one in weeks/ months/ a year or two. It's just gamesmanship; there are too many unknowns right now to make a big decision.

But, as one should never let a good crisis go to waste, why not publicly say that you're not investing because of the referendum result and that there are now several thousand not-jobs, ya boo sucks to you, you loser brexiters. Never mind that many of these hypothetical jobs may have been outside the UK anyway, or inside the UK but filled by EU nationals not Brits.

On reading the tea-leaves, I think that it is likely that the prospect of Brexit, and the expressed intent of some heavy hitters in eight other EU countries to hold their own referenda, is causing some serious brown-trouser time among the eurocracy.

There seems to be a realistic prospect of several other exits, including France and the Nederlands. That's a whole order of magnitude from the poor Greeks, who have been treated abominably.

What I believe is going to happen is EU vs 2, a much-smaller and much less powerful organisation, as it attempts to remodel itself into a form which is acceptable to enough of the 500 million europeans to survive.

No bureaucracy willing contracts itself, any more than a colony in a petri dish shrinks until it has exhausted its growing medium. The likes of Juncker will not go quietly into retirement and obsolescence and will fight hard for their privileges. The harder they fight, the longer and messier the necessary downsizing of the eurocracy will be.

We traded internationally from this country in the Bronze age. We had an empire before the age of steam. We do not need a bloated bureaucracy sitting in various parts of the continent to organise this for us.

machasraven

GreyQueen I agree wholeheartedly with you. Many many people have made billions since Friday morning.

CraftieJoolz

Goodness me I love this thread, so much common sense in one place.
Please may I stay and play.

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I still think this is a dust storm created from the whirlwind of disbelief that the referendum result was soundly 'leave'. Sooner or later the dust WILL settle, there will be many highly embarrassed people bitterly regretting the hasty and emotion driven words they have spoken without due thought and consideration and actions they have or haven't taken too but sooner or later this shock wave will be over and solutions and actions can be considered and formulated and put into place. Who will take the Nation forward is an unknown, how Europe will behave towards the UK is an unknown and what the end result will be is also an unknown. It's too early to tell and although it IS unsettling with all the changes and rhetoric being bandied about it WILL settle and it WILL be settled, in the fullness of time.

We have a big Island, it's the UK and it's ours the 4 nations who live here belong to it and it belongs to them, each and every member has equal ownership and NO ONE is driving any of us elsewhere, this beautiful land is worth the effort of making it ours!

moneyistooshorttomention

Racking brains now and thinking that I dont think we had that many people actually running the Empire (when we still had one.......) did we?? I believe we managed it with quite a smallish number of people??

Speaking as a British person - the downside is we do seem to be one of the more warlike races on the Planet - but I tend to assume somewhere along the line we will "mature" beyond that (the same as the Scandinavians have basically).

However, a plus side to our national character, I think, is we are pretty resourceful and many of us can be pretty hard-working if we need to be. I've certainly noticed many people around me now working rather more hours and much "heavier" work than I ever would have done I have to admit:)

pineapple

Excellent summary GQ and Mrs L
And to throw in a couple of interesting links. This is probably a load of old tosh but I have no doubt that this is the direction of travel and ever closer union is the reason I want out.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit
We already have Europol which controls our Census and now there are plans for a European wide tax code. Sorry no links though someone did post them on the Guardian Comments.
And this 3 year old article on the failings of the EU
https://hbr.org/2013/06/the-european-union-a-failed-ex
And finally a word from Theo Paphitis of Dragons Den
http://www.theopaphitis.com/theos-blog-the-genie-is-out-of-the-bottle/

GreyQueen

CraftieJoolz wrote: »

Goodness me I love this thread, so much common sense in one place.
Please may I stay and play.

You are very very welcome.

But we are also prone to whimsy and some of us are (intermittantly) as mad as a box of frogs. Naming no names and excluding myself, of course.:rotfl:

Just surfaced from the bathtub where I had retreated in glee now that the communal hot water supply has come back up. The S was hitting the F in our boilerhouse. It took the fire brigade and several gas engineers most of the day to sort it out.

*sigh* I guess I have now run out of excuses not to do the dishes.

:j Hangonaminnit, there is a fresh-brewed pot of tea beside the pooter and an international smorgsabord of online newspapers to sample for the news from the outside looking in. I may even try my french comprehension skills on one of their online papers.