Preparedness for when

nuatha

pineapple wrote: »

I do hope not! :eek:

Referring to my saying the UK is leaving the UK.
I've corrected it to say the UK is leaving the EU.

(I've also noted that the edit was due to a Freudian slip - given the ways things are looking at the moment, it looks like there won't be a United Kingdom).

Goldiegirl wrote: »

Given that the old and poorly educated often say that the government and establishment in general has no interest in them, I wonder if their Leave vote was more about voting against the establishment rather than actually about leaving the EU.

A few of the interviews broadcast from Sunderland certainly bear that out, protesting that the government did nothing for them.
Ironically it seems that the areas with largest percentage of leave voters are those that had received substantial EU regeneration funds.
I've read reports of people still wanting to register to vote and of people wanting to know how to change their vote because it "was just a protest" vote.

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The petition, set up by William Oliver Healey, states: "We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the Remain or Leave vote is less than 60%, based on a turnout less than 75%, there should be another referendum."

So, he wants a retrospective rule?

I bet he wouldn't be calling for that, if remain had won.

Apologies for quoting from the BBC News site :embarasse , but that's where I found the report.

cbrown372

mardatha wrote: »

I hate jumping into this kind of aggro but... Every single region up here voted to remain. If that was England then that would be a democratic majority... but since it's only us peasants up here apparently it's immaterial and doesn't matter. I'm damn sure you would be the first to moan Ceridwen if that was you. However instead of moaning about it, Nicola is moving her a$$ and dealing with it. Which to me seems sensible. Maybe she's a Prepper! lol

:rotfl::rotfl:

late middle age = OAP, university level intelligence = didn't set foot in a university but then she thinks the people of Scotland think they are British, nope Scottish first then British

Interestingly Wales got the most amount of money from the EU from the whole of Britain but then its just somewhere she lives and not "home"

mardatha

Do we grow tomatoes here commercially? Or is that going to become a rare fabled item spoken of in hushed terms lol

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Goldiegirl wrote: »

If it's only the PM that can trigger Article 50, then Cameron should go ASAP

I agree, he should.

moneyistooshorttomention

Then I guess its about time the media broadcast interviews with those of us who are very far from "old" or "poorly educated" then isnt it?

Its showing more than a little media bias to try and infer that Brexiters are what many of us most definitely arent...

It's another thing I dont see as very British actually - ie to start chucking around/reporting personal insults (or something that might be perceived thereas).

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MAR we still have hothouses here that grow tomatoes and strawberries and strawberry plants commercially, the EU aren't going to stop trading with us, they'll have lots of produce left on their hands if they do and farming there is in as big a pickle as it is here. Tomatoes will still come in from Spain, don't worry and lots come from the Channel Islands too!

Mojisola

Goldiegirl wrote: »

The reports say that the people who voted Leave, are more likely to be old and / or poorly educated.

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

I think that's incredibly insulting.

But it's what the statistics show -
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis -
not that all the people who voted to leave were older, poorer and less educated but those who are were more likely to vote that way.

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LoveLifeAgain wrote: »

Being someone who lived a life before and after the EU I find it hard to see what the young people were going to get from the EU except austerity.

We're heading for austerity now?

Tell that to the trawler-men, who have had to sit idle for most of the year, and watch as other country's trawlers fished, what used to be their waters.

Tell it to the dairy farmers, who had to spray milk onto their fields, to avoid being fined for exceeding their "quota", while milk was being flown in from other countries.

Tell it to the arable farmers, being fined for making typing errors, on applications for subsidies.

Not forgetting that, our payments to the EU were being used, to subsidise trawler-men and farmers, who are in direct competition with our own trawler-men and farmers.

Not only were we fighting with one hand tied behind our back, but we were buying our opponents weapons for them. :doh:

Blue_Doggy

Although I am in my late 60s, I voted to remain. There were good, bad, and totally rubbish arguments on both sides, and I tried my best to read and learn as much as possible about the facts (such as there were) from unbiased sources.

I did not make up my mind until close to polling day, and the things which finally decided me were:
1) that there was no outline programme of action or statement of policy offered by the leave side.
2) I fear that British farming will be damaged in the rush for cheap food, and worry that to compete many, most, or all of the animal welfare and environmental gains made over recent years will be lost (as an unashamed Bunny-Hugger that's very important to me).
3) the call to "get our country back" never resonated with me, because I never felt I had lost it.
4) I had (and have) no confidence that the wide and airy promises made by the leave side will be fulfilled - they are politicians, after all.

It's also a pity that little serious thought was given to the situation of Northern Ireland, and also of Gibraltar, both of which share a land border with an EU country.

However, we are where we are, and must make the best of it now. It is sad to see that there are attempts to foment division between those who voted one way and those who voted the other, and also between the generations. (I don't belong to Facebook so luckily miss much of the contention!)

I do not doubt that our country will continue, and thrive at some level, although it may take a while to re-establish ourselves fully.

I am very much saddened to read in some posts here and elsewhere that people hope for the collapse of the EU - we're out of it now (or will be soon), let us wish the remaining 27 countries well. I hope that it does not collapse but stays together, don't forget the Bear prowling in the East.