Preparedness for when

jk0

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Boy...am I ever glad I'm reached retirement age. A large "nail in the coffin" for middling-level or so office jobs.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3645829/Meet-Amelia=AI-assistant-Virtual-agent-gets-job-London-council-answering-customer-queries.html

Definite SHTF time for people needing that type of job...and that type of thing was worrying me pre-retirement as to what other options there would be on the table for a job.

Oh my word. Doesn't that video remind you of those 'Persona Sythetics' adverts on Channel 4 last year?

Didn't I hear that Birmingham Council had outsourced its customer services to India? I'm not sure which would be more useless.

moneyistooshorttomention

jk0 wrote: »

Didn't I hear that Birmingham Council had outsourced its customer services to India? I'm not sure which would be more useless.

Thinking of how "culture clash" can happen sometimes in our own country and make life more difficult....then...yep...mind boggles.

It does make life easier when there are the same "cultural reference points" and you can describe something to person at other end of phone and there is a fair chance they will "know what you mean".

Re video - I'm more thinking of that recent tv series - cant recall name at moment - in which the main "character" was this rather attractive AI robot the family had with them. I was sitting there sorta glued to watching it with fascinated horror thinking "Any minute now....:eek::(".

I've long watched the "middling" type jobs vanishing and taken a very "personal" interest in it - whilst thinking "I do hope enough of them are around to ensure I can keep working at a job thats indoors/9-5 Monday to Friday/etc/etc for long enough to get to 60". Though I gather this sort of stuff might hit the "higher level" type jobs too and I admit my mind boggles even more at realising it could hit professional type jobs (eg solicitors and the like). Though I must say I'd be delighted to deal with "opposition" that had AI solicitors (rather than "flesh and blood" solicitors) - as they might make fewer mistakes/try-ons/etc than the "flesh and blood" variety are prone to:cool:

jk0

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Re video - I'm more thinking of that recent tv series - cant recall name at moment - in which the main "character" was this rather attractive AI robot the family had with them. I was sitting there sorta glued to watching it with fascinated horror thinking "Any minute now....:eek::(".

Yeah, that's what I was talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7k-DwrITI

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MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

We humans are an odd species, we cry our eyes out over a drowned kitten but it would appear kill with ease and little conscience a member of our own kind. I don't know what led up to the death of Jo Cox or the motivation behind the act from the killer but I really do think that the reality of deaths from violence is blurred for many by the games available for games consoles, the content of TV programmes (who amongst us doesn't enjoy a good detective series of murder mystery?), the 24 hour news coverage of events around the world, the violence of war and nationalists, the violence of and between even football fans and drunken youth on a night out. We've lost sight of the fact that life is precious and frail and sacrosanct that we don't have the right to take that life no matter how much justification we might feel in righteous anger and justification. Killing is WRONG no matter why, no matter where, no matter who. We've lost the guidelines set down in religion one of which states clearly THOU SHALT NOT KILL, the brakes have been removed and we have no guidance as to how to restrain our more bestial impulses and the result is the death of a young woman and mother who was by all accounts a good and honest hard working girl, had done much good in this careworn world and was likely to do more good in her capacity as a member of parliament. A very unnecessary and sad loss. Unless we teach the next generations that life is not always about ME and what I WANT, teach them as well as their 'RIGHTS' the 'WRONGS' too we have created a society that only looks inwards and has no understanding of community and an individuals place in it.

Spot on Mrs LW I agree far too much casual violence that makes people think 'well its fine on the game console every one gets up and walks away' No they don't young and old folk die through seemingly random acts of violence for very little reason.Life is becoming increaseingly of little value which is a sad state of affairs in the 21st century.Didn't we see enough violence in the 20th century to put folk off from killing their fellow man/woman.

You read in the papers of the elderly being attacked for very little reason ,or youngsters dying by the hands of their school friends just for 'street cred' Surely its time to say enough is enough, lets put a halt to these acts of murder and mayhem on the streets of our country. This morning two children are mourning the loss of their Mum who was just doing her job.No one should lose their life for that.
RIP Jo Cox

Margaret54

Well said Lyn I totally agree with you. My dh and I are so shocked to hear about the killing of such a lovely young woman, and are thinking of her dear husband and children and all the family and friends. It is truly shocking. Life is so precious.

monnagran

Lyn, Jackie and Margaret. Couldn't agree with you more. There have always been the odd dysfunctional people who seem to have been born without a conscience and have no empathy, but today this sort of behaviour appears to be the norm and almost acceptable.
I am about to show my age and probably my old fashioned tight-lipped respectability but I blame three things.

The internet that makes scenes of violence, depravity and mindless cruelty readily available. Not only that but presents these things as games, sport and almost a leisure activity.

Freely available alcohol round the clock and the culture of acceptable drunkenness.

The introduction of "human rights" without the corresponding "human responsibilities". Young people are not taught that bad behaviour incurs consequences.

I can't be alone in remembering that the local paper used to carry reports, with names and addresses, of court hearings of those caught being drunk and disorderly and of the fines or imprisonment incurred. Oh, the shame of it.
Imagine that being the case today. It would need a whole publication to itself and an appearance in it would be a source of admiration from one's peers.

By the way, what ever happened to shame and embarrassment?

Not everything about the past is good but boy! has the pendulum swung too far in the wrong direction.

Righteous rant over.

Life IS precious and surely this message must get through sooner or later.

x

Margaret54

good post monnagran well said

lobbyludd

in the Uk we have very low homicide rates, and they are falling (although as with any indicator and low numbers there is random "noise" year on year, going up and down - so taking a long view is best and looking at the trend.

However for those that want to see data over the last 20 years and compare it internationally, here is some to look at:

http://beta.data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5?locations=GB

the past was not safer, life was not viewed as less dispensable, rather it was seen as more throw-away, - this is true of any era compared to now, see Eisner (2003) – Long-Term Historical Trends in Violent Crime. In Crime and Justice, 30, 83–142. (here is a good round-up: https://ourworldindata.org/homicides/#note-2)


each death individually is a huge tragedy, but lets not use it to reinforce our own individual prejudices, create unwarranted fear, or calls for X, Y and Z, based on no evidence

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armyknife wrote: »

That's quite an ugly post.

Why?

We've had pathetic sentencing for violent crimes for years.

If this case causes tptb to do bring in proper sentences, that will be a fitting tribute to her.

pineapple

Personally I don't see any link with this extreme act and a deterioration in societal norms. We have had murders before - with a variety of motives.
Bits and pieces are still coming out about the mental health background and political affiliations of the suspect and I think it is a bit early to speculate.
In the meantime I find it almost as much of a concern that people were able to give details of the incident yet I only heard of one attempt to stop it. Of course it begs the question whether one would intervene where the attacker is armed. I don't suppose we would know till it happened.. I have to say as well that I was a bit gobsmacked that the husband posted a Twitter statement on the day. But maybe that's because I am a bit of a Luddite in that I think the 'twitterisation' of our society isn't necessarily a good thing.